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Reply to "B&A Berkshire, where's the whistle mystery solved."

@RickO posted:

Heres an excellent high quality photo Gary.  When you zoom in it  looks like it might be whistle. Theres a large port at the base of the whistle. No clue what that is. Unless its something else, maybe these locomotives have 2 whistles?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcomike/46412636982

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Now, to get this to Lionel so they don't offer a whistle steam feature and no whistle

That's definitely not a whistle.  Looks to be a consolidated type safety valve, probably to prevent over-pressurization of that pipe.

https://valves.bakerhughes.com...5411543-safety-valve

Most whistles commonly used on U.S. locomotives have the same basic form going back to pretty much the beginning.  At the simplest, they have a bell on top.  Early ones could have just been a tube with a flat or shaped top, later ones were cast and had visible "steps" depending on the height of each "chime".  Under the bell is a bowl with a languid plate in the center which directs the steam at the proper angle/velocity to strike the bell and make the sound. There is a surprising amount of precision needed in machining these parts to make a whistle sound right.

Some whistle bowls have an integrated valve, others (generally earlier on and non-locomotive applications) used a separate valve elsewhere in the plumbing.  The one below is a five chime whistle from a C&NW locomotive.  It has a horizontal valve and is a flange mounted base vs the threaded connection often used.  At the very least it's a good representation of the basic shape you'd be looking for.

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