SteamWolf posted:Don McErlean posted:Steamwolf : I agree the Marx 21 Santa Fe Warbonnets are really cool. I have set 45225 from the Allied Toy Distributors, New York, catalog of 1951-52 and I am enclosing pictures of both the engines and the consist. This set came with track and a 50 watt transformer plus a lock on and wire. The same set was also featured in the 1952 Marx "catalog". My set actually shows that the box had originally been marked 45200 then over stamped 45225, the difference is that the 45225 set came with the tank car. Why over stamp the box? - well Marx was famous for saving money, so why waste a perfectly good box
As you can see, these are the so called 3/16 " Scale cars but they ride on special "high" trucks designed to accommodate the higher coupler position of the 21 lithographed diesel. Like most Marx I find, this one runs like a champ!
Regards, Don
Don, that looks absolutely AMAZING. What a fantastic consist. I'm going to have to scour the-bay and local train shows for that stuff. Thank you very very much for sharing. Could you pm more pictures please? I took the drive truck on the power unit all apart today and cleaned it up really really well, and with a little Trainmaster 4050 transformer at barely off 0, it flies. Literally. I had to catch it before it fell off the table. Clean Marx motors are pretty amazing. Very cool story about the box too - like Hafner and their recycling.
Steamwolf: Late on my promise to post more pictures I am afraid, for many reasons...but I am attaching some close ups of the consist you were commenting on on 2/12 that was being pulled by the Marx litho #21 Santa Fe F units. If you chose to fill out your consist for your #21's remember you have to find the cars with the "high" trucks, as these are the only ones that will line up correctly with those on the 21. The trucks on my set are all metal, including the "pickle fork" coupling. I have seen them with plastic "pickle forks" likely on cars made somewhat later. I also included a picture of the transformer that was included in the set. The cars and transformer comprise the complete set except for track. Good hunting, hope you are successful.
Don
