Reply to "Buy/Make Anything Cool Lately (Tinplate Version)"

George S posted:
Nation Wide Lines posted:
Jim O'C posted:

I like this yellow double-stamped unit someone posted a few months back. Not sure the Dec. 1924 date is accurate though.

3007 gondola yellow

That is one of my cars.  The double sided litho appears on only one half of the inside of the car.  It is very interesting and I have never seen another lithographed car of any sort that features a similar reverse print.  

As for the dates, these cars are generally attributed to the period between 1925 and 1927, as they first appeared in the 1925 catalog and last appeared in the 1927 catalog.  

NWL

I would guess that the tin failed the first pass through the lithography machine, so rather than waste it, they just flipped it over and used the other side. There are a lot of examples of this with Marx. These AF cars are relatively rare, so it would be naturally more unusual to see these manufacturing mistakes. 

For me personally, I don't have the room, patience or money to collect every variation. I'm happy to get one example of each road name in the best condition I can. I'm late to the game though, and many of the best pieces are already in well healed collections. I just need to wait for them to down-size.

George

Not exactly sure on the misprint.  I can say that it is a negative image, to the image that is found on the outside of the car, in that all of the lettering is backward.  Not sure how that would be done.  It is almost as if the metal was laid on a wet surface and picked up the litho from that, but that does not make sense in my understanding how the item would have been printed.  

I have seen a number of re-used Flyer litho pieces, but most often the pieces are re-used as floors of cars.  Harder to find are lithographed items that are overpainted at the factory.  I have a couple of engines in my collection that feature lithographed bodies that are then overpainted at the factory.  These overpaints are evidenced by chips in the paint that reveal the lithograph.

Here is picture of a lithographed engine body that was overpainted.

Note the chips on the corner that show the brown lithograph underneath.  Also the cracking paint evident in the window frame is due to the lithograph alligatoring underneath the paint, as opposed to paint cracking.  

Here is another lithographed engine that is overpainted.

Note the red lithographed in the lower left side of the body.  This is where the black paint has been scratched to reveal the red/maroon lithograph.  

Not sure as to the reasons of these overpaints, as far as if there was something wrong with the litho or if they were simply excess production that was painted to create a special set for a specific retailer.  

NWL

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