I really have to try and be over in Kingsport or wherever to get at least a look at either engine.
I was born here in Erwin TN in 1948.
At that time my Grandpa and Dad both worked for Clinchfield here in Erwin.
I have never seen a real Clinchfield running engine that I can remember as a kid, even a repaint.
SO it's kinda like turned into a bucket list item after your post SJC. lol
Larry