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@P42Amtrak83 posted:

Amfleet Phase I would match E and F units, Phase 1 SDP40Fs, and Phase II F40PHs(MTH/Lionel).  On the corridor, it would go well with Amtrak GG1s (black and Phase I -MTH and Lionel) and Phase II E60s ( no one) They wouldn't match any of the Viewliner Equipment.

Phase II Amfleets would go well with Phase II, III F40PHs (MTH and Lionel), Phase III AEM-7s (MTH), Phase II E60 (no one) , Phase II and III P30CHs (no one), Phase II and III FL9s, and phase I and II SDP40Fs. They still won't match the Viewliners.

Phase III and IV Amfleets and Phase IV Viewliners would look good with Phase III and IV F40PHs, Genesis engines (MTH), AEM-7s (MTH), Dash 8s (MTH and Atlas), HHP-8 (Lionel), E60s (MTH)

Phase VI Amfleets and Viewliners and Phase III (reprised) Viewliner IIs will match  Phase V Genesis (MTH), AEM-7 (MTH), HHP-8 (Lionel), ACS-64 (no one...yet), Phase IV and V Dash 8s (MTH and Atlas) and the chargers (no one)

That's all I can think of at this point.

A few corrections if I may be permitted.

  • Amtrak also leased PC GG1s prior to that roads demise and some Amtrak GG1s still retained their PRR DGLE Single Stripe with the Amtrak Helvetica white stencil centered under the stripe.  The GG1 replaced the original Metroliner cars in Metroliner service and is the only time they were scheduled for 100 mph operation.  All Amtrak GG1s were retired in 1981.  Amtrak with help, did repaint GG1 4935 into it's PRR DGLE 5 stripe paint scheme in 1977.  It ran with this paint until retirement.  Since Amfleet cars required Head End Power and GG1s only had steam generators, Amtrak had a small fleet of HEP cars that were either converted coaches or baggage cars.  They ran either at the end of the train or just behind the locomotive.   In addition to MTH and Lionel, Weaver offered their brass GG1 in Penn Central and Amtrak Phase I paint and Williams has produced the scale GG1 in PC and Amtrak Phase I.
  • In addition to Lionel and MTH, K-line made the F40PH in Phase III paint in three numbers.  It is very similar to the Lionel offering.  Possibly the same tooling although Lionel has stated otherwise.
  • SDP40Fs were all built with steam generators and while they may have pulled Amfleet cars, it would only be if they were leading an F40PH that provided the Head End Power to the Amfleet Cars.  SDP40Fs were built specifically for long distance trains that at the time consisted of predecessor road steam heated equipment.  While most got remanufactured into F40PHS, some SDP40Fs lasted long enough to get painted in Phase III paint.  MTH has offered the FP45 in Amtrak Phase I paint in the Railking Scale line, but the SDP40F is really a different locomotive on closer inspection.  Athearn has done an excellent SDP40F in HO and Kato one in N scale.
  • FL9s were remanufactured for Amtrak in 1978 with HEP generator sets so there are photos of the FL9 in an early Phase III paint scheme pulling Phase II painted Amfleet cars.  3rd Rail made the FL9 around 2013 in the later Phase III paint scheme so it is most appropriate for Phase III painted Amfleet cars.  The few other F units that Amtrak inherited were never converted to HEP and were mainly former Southern Pacific FP7s.
  • A total of 5 E units were converted to HEP.  Most of the E units retained their steam generators for use on long distance steam heated trains.
  • Atlas also produced the AEM7 in 1999 in the Phase III paint scheme and it is a wonderful model even though it does not have command. 
  • Williams has also produced the Genesis locomotives in all the various paint schemes. 

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