Thanks Hobby and Paul, I think I may try them out. My go to will always be MTS, but these LC+ locos are from Lionel's 2015 Catalog and probably wont be stocked by MTS, so I'll give Grzyboski a try. I can't do Train World even at the same price because of Tax, even though I live a few miles away from them, at their Brooklyn, McDonald Ave location
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