George thanks for trying to help ... I checked the two sets Western has ... they are really nice, typical of MTH ... but I did get a Black and Brass 260e a while back ..Now looking for the Black and Nickle ... my problem is I have more cars than engines ... and I would probably breakdown and buy a set to get the engine I want even though I have accumulated a lot of cars over time and really just need a couple more engines.
Thanks again