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Reply to "Interesting wrinkle on commuter rail in NYC"

I would be careful about that,the original subways were a public/private venture, they wouldn't have happened without both being involved. The IND was built by the city, and it was built in time as well, and was better run than either the BRT or IRT during that timefame, not to mention that the IRT and BMT ran their systems into the ground by the time the city took them over. Neither private industry nor government have a monopoly on virtue or on stupidity,if you look at mass transit they both have some amazing stuff, and more than a bit of failures, scandals and downright ugly things (there was more than a bit of corruption around the els and trolleys in NYC, Jay Gould and other types owned them at various times, and millions were stolen through graft and monopistic practices, when the IRT was built there were all kinds of bid rigging, real estate insider bribery for information on routes,you name it.

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