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Reply to "Just found these 21" ATSF Passenger Cars on Lionel Web Site"

T4TT posted:

JTRAIN,
Lionel's tooling for regular dome is not a decent representation of the Pullman regular dome car (500) offered in the 21" Passenger Car 2 Pack #2?

Otherwise, it sounds like the Lionel tooling adequately represents Budd build passenger cars?  Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

I am very interested in this set, but I am even more interested in accuracy to the prototype.  Based on the web page (and that is not reliable) it looks like the cars offered are as follows.

Lionel SKUName/NumberTypeBuilder
19270103513BaggageBudd
 3136???? ? ?
 Pine Gorge10-6 SleeperBudd
 NavajoSleeper-ObservationBudd
    
1927020313952 Seat Chair CarBudd
 1489DinerBudd
    
1927030550Big Dome-Lounge & Crew DormitoryBudd
    
1927040Pine Bell10-6 SleeperBudd
 500Dome-LoungePullman

Based on the illustrations, it looks like you could put together a pretty accurate shortened version of the San Francisco Chief with those cars.  The Budd "regular" dome is not accurate for Santa Fe, but the full dome is.  All of the other cars would be accurate for the prototype, except for the observation car, since the San Francisco Chief normally did not run with one, but the Budd observation "Navajo" was a Santa Fe car, and it could conceivably have been run on the San Francisco Chief, at least it would look good.  I think it might have been an 80' car (20" scale length).  The only thing missing would be a couple of other types of sleepers, but they would be pullman built (different side corrugations and smooth roofs, so different tooling).

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