JohnGaltLine posted:GGG, I understand that there is a shortage of techs out there, and that may affect where and when a problem could be fixed. From a post a while back I got the impression that actually repairing an LC engine may not be worth the trouble for anyone as opposed to replacing it. I would also guess that the tech, while similar on a basic level, is significantly different than other systems as to require new and different training to diagnose and repair these engines. Added to that having road number specific boards may hamper the ability to make repairs in house, and pretty much make it impossible for an authorized service center to do the typical board level repairs. only component level repairs would be a feasible route, and my impression is that there are very few component level repairs that even trained techs perform.
All this still is sort of a side note, however, as weather or not you can get the locomotive fixed, or it has to be returned or replaced, it still counts as a bad locomotive as far as quality control goes.
I agree that I won't get a proper polling here, but I actually expect to get a higher than average number of bad products reported. the folks on this forum may only be a small percentage of the lionChief buying public, or perhaps permillage would be a better figure, but I do think the folks here also buy more trains per person than much of the rest of the public and are likely to see more problems than your average joe. I think I can extrapolate a fair idea of if there are abundant issues, or just the occasional, fluke, bad engine.
Shawn, do you have some examples of the recurring cr@p with Lionchief/+ engines?
Everyone else, thank you so far.
P.S. George, I really do appreciate your comments on things. You keep me honest and correct my mistakes more often than I think you should have to. Keep it up!
P.P.S. I edited the original topic with a bit more on what I'm actually looking for here. Basically quality control would include product that does not do what it is supposed to or is cosmetically damaged. It doesn't include the user's preference for some features or dis-like of others... only issues with things not working as they were designed to work or being physically broken.
I understand this is a post on lion chief LC/LC +. I was talking about lionel product across the board. This I've experienced first hand. As far as LC/LC+ my opinion is second party. Although, the second party is mostly dealers. I've heard a good number of issues with the remotes. Something, I have experienced with on other non-lc remote set. Some of this stuff needs redesign IMHO. A better stop for the potentiometer...Better thicker plastic.
