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The earliest of this series of classic TMCC/RS equipped Geeps, six of them, including the 15565, were not equipped with electrocouplers. Below is an article from the old Coil Couplers web site which sets out the differences.  As shown in the article, additional features were gradually added to the engines as production continued. The Lionel parts diagram is generic, so it may show things that weren't present on certain models. Note the parts diagram also says Postwar Celebration, which none of the engines shown on the Coil Couplers article were, except the Burlington. There were some additional Geeps of this type produced after the article was published, that were part of the PWC series.

I have the No. 18866 (cab no. 2383) later version of the Milwaukee Geep. It's an improvement over the 15565, because it came with electrocouplers, and also came with diecast pilots and a diecast fuel tank, which gives it added weight. The pilots and fuel tank on the 18565 are plastic. Lionel also had refreshed the mold, so the body details are slightly crisper on the later engines including the 18866, although it's not something a casual observer would notice. Below is a photo of my 18866, with the electocouplers (I added the Milwaukee Road lettering). My no. 2383, like the other five TMCC/RS Geeps I have from this era, runs very well, without any issues at all. Bulletproof engines, with great sounds.

Electrocouplers are very easy to add if a person has one of the six early versions of this engine that came without them. Diecast fuel tanks are also available at Lionel parts if one has an earlier version with a plastic fuel tank (like the OP's 18565) and wants to replace it. 


Lionel's Command Equipped Geeps Roll On

Evolution of the Trainmaster Command Geeps

by Clyde Coil

In 1996, LIONEL introduced the first Command equipped Geeps, the 2380 Southern Pacific and the 2380 New York Central. Today's Geeps have evolved in a way that tells a story. One of the stories of today's LIONEL.

A list of released GP-7s and GP-9s with relevant feature information follows.

Built with Diecast trucks, metal frame, plastic tank and pilots
Diecast magnetic couplers, directional lighting, magnetraction
Pullmor Powered, Trainmaster and Railsounds equipped
CatalogEngineRailroadModel #ReleasedNotes
1996 Lionel Corp.2380Southern Pacific6-18562Oct-96 
1996 Lionel Corp.2380New York Central6-18563Nov-96 
1997 Classic-12380Canadian Pacific6-18564Jun-97 
1997 Classic-22338Milwaukee Road6-18565May-97 
1997 Classic-22028Pennsylvania6-18567Jun-97 
Electrocouplers, Crew Talk and Tower Comm introduced
1997 Stocking Stuffer1997Lionel Centennial6-18846Oct-97finished interior, diecast pilot, no electrocouplers
1997 Heritage Fall2380,2381Union Pacific6-11956Dec-97Double Lashup with second unit non powered, electrocouplers, no Railsounds
1997 Heritage Fall2397Union Pacific set6-11837Dec-97 
1998 Classic2380Chicago Burlington & Quincy6-18569Mar-98 
1998 Classic2398Custom Series #16-18575Sept-98 
Diecast Fuel Tank introduced
1998 Heritage2380, 2381, 2389Boston and Maine6-11843Sept-98Triple Lashup with middle unit non powered, electrocouplers, no Railsounds
Diecast Pilot introduced
1998 Classic-II2029Pennsylvania6-18870Nov-98 
1998 Classic-II2383Milwaukee Road6-18866Dec-98 
1999 Preview5616Baltimore & Ohio6-18879May-99 
1999 Preview Custom series #26-18881April-99 
Finished Cab interior introduced
1999 Heritage453,454,455Wabash6-18872May-99Triple Lashup with middle unit non powered, electrocouplers, no Railsounds
1999 Classic-I2328Burlington6-18892May-99Postwar Celebration Series
1999 Classic-III607,608,609Florida East Coast6-28509April-00Triple Lashup with non-powered middle unit
1999 Classic-III2924Sante Fe Merger6-28502Oct-99 
Other cataloged items
2000 Volume 1178Atlantic Coast Line6-28503April-00 
2000 Volume 21518Chicago & North Western6-28517May-01includes Cab-1 & Command Base
2001 Volume 11406New Haven Command Control Set6-31905Nov-01includes 4 cars, power and track
2001 Volume 12001Atomic Energy Commission6-28527April-01Glows in the dark
2001 Volume 1102Norfolk Southern Service Station Set6-21789Sept-01includes 5 cars
2001 Volume 12349Northern Pacific6-28519April-01Postwar Celebration Series
2001 Volume 24134Grand Trunk Western6-28534(Jan-02)Archive Collection
2002 Volume 14601US Army Transportation Corps6-28535(Nov-02)GP-9m
2002 Volume 11274Rock Island6-28536July-02 

These Geeps tell a story, Lionel is constantly striving to improve the classic designs from the postwar era, and has produced the most innovative and fun versions ever of the Classic Lionel Geep.


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