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Reply to "Lionel Vision GS Models - Prototype Accuracy"

Hot Water posted:
Chuck Sartor posted:

I believe HW did crew talk for MTH's EMD's E-8 diesels. This what I was told (not by him himself), but it does sound like him. If it's not, I'm sure he will post it here.

I sure don't remember doing any "EMD E8 diesels", but I know for sure that my voice was used on the very first models of SP 4449, by MTH, way back when then first did the GS-4. In fact I provide one or two rolls of 35MM color slides of just about ever square foot of 4449, in order for them to produce the model (photo 1).

Assuming you mean the original PS1 versions?  I have one of these converted to PS3.  How accurate would you rate MTH's execution?  I do love it, and it runs great.  I painted the ladders black, but still need to work on the wheels.

As additional information, concerning the whistle location, all, and I mean ALL, of the SP semi-streamlined  GS Class 4-8-4s had the whistle mounted just forward of the cab & turret, down inside the sky-line casing (the opening can be seen when viewed down on the real locomotives). During the restoration of 4449, in 1975/1975 for use on the American Freedom Train, the steam supply (superheated steam) was repiped and the whistle relocated forward to the right side (Engineer's side) of the exhaust stack. Another steam supply pipe was t-ed off the main supply, for a second, or "guest" whistle on the left side (Fireman's side) of the exhaust stack. Each whistle was lever operated for each crewman. The entire tour of the American Freedom Train, 4449 harried two whistles; 1) the Engineer's whistle being the original Hancock deep whistle from SP&S 4-8-4 #700 (which was subsequently returned to the 700 when it was restored to steam), 2) the Fireman's whistle was a large Santa Fe chime whistle, which was returned to the owner while at San Louis Obispo during the 1977 return trip of 4449 back to Portland, OR.

It should also be pointed out that ALL the whistles on the SP GS class 4-8-4s were NOT "lever operated" by the Engineer! The steam supply valve at the base of the whistle was air pressure operated by a small brass lever, mounted just to the left front of the Engineer's position. A second small brass lever, was mounted right next to the whistle lever, which supplied air pressure to the big forward-facing air horn (4449 still has the original small brass lever for blowing the air horn).

I am understanding it correctly then that the whistles would not be quillable?

As additional information, the Southern Pacific Engineers RARELY ever used the steam whistle, as the big air horn was far louder and travelled farther forward, especially in foggy conditions in California.

Makes sense.

 

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