just got word from my local tech raymond Manley at rays electric trains that mine have come in. he loaded the latest software version on to the two remotes I purchased and are on my way to house via mail right now. If they check out ok with ray I suspect they are going to be good. how they hold up long term is anyone's guess.
a quick question for those who would know. since the remotes are in and shipping out are the thumb wheel parts in also for the techs? I forgot to ask ray that one. he stated that he was getting more from mth in this next and last run when I ordered them from him.