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@Tom Morris posted:

Here is information on the Crescent. After World War II in 1946, Southern Railway along with six other railroads(Western Railway of Alabama, Louisville & Nashville, Atlanta & West Point, Florida East Coast, New York Central, and Pennsylvania Railroad) placed an 141 car order of 11.5 million dollars to Pullman-Standard, Budd, and American Car and Foundry to replenish the Crescent, Southerner, and Royal Palm train sets. The order was placed in 1946 and was not delivered until late 1949 early 1950. Eight different car types were ordered: baggage-RPO, baggage-dormitory, two chair configurations (52&58 seat), dining car, two sleeper configurations (10-6, 1MR-2DR-lounge), and boattail sleeper-lounge observation car.

The Crescent, ran from New Orleans to Montgomery on the L&N; From Montgomery to Atlanta on the Western Railway of Alabama and Atlanta & West Point (The West Point Route); From Atlanta to Washington on Southern; and Washington to New York on the Pennsylvania. Each of the five railroads contributed equipment in approximate proportion to route miles served. Each car was stainless steel lightweight equipment and lettered for its owner using consistent black Gothic font.

Here is the breakdown:

L&N

     

Number Series

Number of Cars

Dates Builder

Builder

Type

Comments

1120-1121

2

1949

P-S

Bag-RPO

 

1598-1599

2

1950

ACF

Bag-Dorm

 

3250-3251

2

1949

Budd

Chair

52 Seat

3252

1

1949

Budd

Chair

58 Seat

2790

1

1949

Budd

Dining Car

48 Seat

3400-3401

2

1949

P-S

10-6 Sleeper

Pearl River, Mobile River

3300-3301

2

1950

P-S

Sleeper Lounge Obs

Royal Canal, Royal Street

 

12

    
      

W of A

     

Number Series

Number of Cars

Dates Builder

Builder

Type

Comments

87

1

1949

P-S

Bag-RPO

 

106

1

1949

Budd

Chair

52 Seat

 

1

1949

P-S

10-6 Sleeper

Alabama River

 

1

1950

P-S

Sleeper Lounge Obs

Royal Palace

 

4

    

 

 

     

A&WP

     

Number Series

Number of Cars

Dates Builder

Builder

Type

Comments

68-69

2

1949

Budd

Chair

52 Seat

501

1

1949

Budd

Dining Car

48 Seat

 

1

1949

P-S

10-6 Sleeper

Chattahoochee River

 

4

    
      

PRR

     

Number Series

Number of Cars

Dates Builder

Builder

Type

Comments

8351-8358

8

1949

P-S

10-6 Sleeper

Birch River, Bush River

     

Delaware River, Middle River

     

Patapsco River, Raritan River

     

Schuylkill River, Susquehanna River

 

Southern provided the balance of the cars needed. So, a Crescent train could have been all Southern or a mixture of the 5 Railroads. In 1950, the Crescent, normally would have been pulled by diesels on the L&N, E6 or E7; The West Point Route, FP7; Southern E6 or E7 (E8 after 1953), and GG1 on the Pennsy.

Tom

This is great info, thanks! And yeah I’ve never heard of a sleeper/ kitchen either. Seems like it would be a really interesting car if it is in fact prototypical for the crescent.

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