Tommys_Trains posted:Ron, I purchased mine online from Lionel. I think they knew they were a goof and had them on clearance. Wouldn't be surprised if these showed up on their warehouse sale as well. I couldn't stand them either. I opened them up and removed the small circuit boards. Getting the roofs off was the hardest part as they were very tight (& figuring out where to press on the windows). The wiring is a bit confusing, but after you look at it a bit, all you have to do is ensure you have a closed circuit. I don't have photos but if you do a search I wouldn't be surprised if you find a photo or two. Not worth disputing with Lionel IMO.
Tommy, there were two threads on this issue from like two years ago. I didn't see any wiring diagrams in them.
I'll call Lionel service on Monday morning (like a million other people on the first business day after Christmas). I can do very basic wire clipping & soldering, but if there is confusion or advanced difficulty level involved, I'm out.
It is ironic, last year at York, I asked Howard Hitchcock why a first two-car set was released on these cars, but not a second (or 3rd). He said it was likely due to "sales." I began my conversation, however something like: " I have a question about the North Pole Central two-car passenger set." And the first thing he said was, "are the lights flickering?"
Not knowing about THAT issue (& that not being the reason for my approaching him), I had no idea of asking about "the problem." Looking back now, it is sad he didn't volunteer the information to me & suggest I get my first 2-car set in for warranty service ASAP. Huh, & until now, I had through he was a pretty good guy.
