Reply to "Taggers and "Real Trespassers" vs. Railfan Photographers"

@Number 90 posted:

Her are some rules of thumb to help you determine whether you are on railroad property or not:

1. If there is a "No Trespassing" sign within sight, you can figure that it's right at the property line.
2. If you are along the right of way, 50 feet from the center line of the nearest track is a good faith estimate.  The actual most common measurement is 45 feet from the center line.  If it is obvious that there was formerly a track closer to where you are standing, measure your distance from its center line as though it were still there.  The property line does not normally move when tracks are removed.  If there is a right of way access road between you and the nearest track, it is almost always railroad property, but is frequently just barely inside the RR property line.  Do the 50 feet to center line test and see of the road is within that.  The pole line used to be a good marker, but there are not many of them remaining.
3. At facilities, as opposed to the right of way outside of facilities, you should make a reasonable search for a No Trespassing sign.  If the railroad does not post its property line, you can usually negotiate if challenged, as long as you are a reasonable distance from what is obviously railroad track or structures or roads.  You can't act too innocent and still make a credible apology.
4. Paranoia is not relaxing, but watching trains is.  Try to relax and enjoy the show, and never turn a confrontation into a drama.  Wave and smile at every railroader who passes.  Being nice, friendly, and cooperative almost always works to get you the best deal you are going to get that day.
5. If you are on a public street or the parking lot of Mc Donald's, you aren't on railroad property.  And the railroad doesn't own the air between you and the tracks when you are on a public bridge or other public or private property.

I've been taking images of railroads for a few years. Tom's suggestions above (especially #4) is about the best summation you will find.

I've only been approached twice - neither a big deal although a NYPD Plain clothed detective gave me a nod that said "move so I don't have to get out of my car" one day while catching equipment coming out of a tunnel.

Now if you are unfortunate to come upon someone who needs to exercise their authority remember you will not win a conversation with a cop. If you are 50' off the right of way you can perhaps tell them to pound sand and call the local PD, However if you are on the RR property then you better get your best humility and apology you have ready for display.

Paul