Thanks Pat. I've been wanting a 785 for a while. Thought it would require larger radius than I'll have but I've been told it will run 0-31. I was at a train show today, 2 785s but for more than I want to spend. The Williams 783 looked similar, black not gray, with spoked drivers and was only $250. Now I don't need it to creep but sounds like it's it's a road runner and with a smaller layout I'll never be able to load it down.
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