gunrunnerjohn posted:GGG posted:LC and LC+ is the new TMCC. Cheaper to make, better profit margin and newer tech. Different features unfortunately, but a more complete integrated package.Comparing LC/LC+ to TMCC is truly an apples to oranges comparison! Sorry George, but that does not compute. TMCC has a whole family of features that LC/LC+ doesn't have, it also operates the command accessories like switches and many accessories. I get that you think TMCC is dated, but that's just one man's opinion. It's hardly a "more complete" package, it's just a basic locomotive control package.
A full-up ERR upgrade runs rings around an LC+ locomotive as far as performance. Could LC+ be expanded? I suppose so, but how about the tons of TMCC accessories and motorized units still being sold by Lionel?
John I am talking the engine not the control system. I complained years ago, no one cared because they were getting cheap engines with TMCC like functions.
An LC+ has directional lighting, integrated smoke, remote couplers and Cruise control. What is not TMCC like? BUT Yes it does not have the operating system behind it, hence my different features comment. I stand by my comments.
Remember Legacy is also about operating features that include consistent operation between Legacy engines, especially when you use the speed function, or operate a consist. Remember all the complaints about the Back EMF Legacy engine? With all the different manufactures, gear ratios, gear design, while you can certainly back fit a Legacy radio and motor driver that can accept Legacy command ( I have done it with Lionel parts). It won't meet a Lionel Legacy standard. Without more engineering, and a lot more code to account for a brass Williams Mabuchi 3 pole motor, versus a 3rd rail Pittman 7 pole motor, etc...
Too many people glossing over real issues that take more work to resolve. Work, that Lionel would struggle with considering the manning, and the system approach they have taken with their design.
Folks really do not appreciate how many Lionel parts have gone obsolete and not carried for engines that where one off. Decades of engine, that motors, linkage, even certain smoke units that are no longer available. Unique parts that a generic one can't be used. G
