Some Brilliant stuff as always , and a lovely dedication for the thread by Chris !
While not knowing of the man in any way myself, it is always a loss to the world when someone passes who had such meaning to a community, so Vale Mr Groff ...
I have a couple of "Bitzas" coming my way this week 
First up is one that has had some wheel surgery along the way and has two different wheels fore and aft , I am pretty sure the 10 spoke pressed tin rear wheels are correct , but the front 12 spoke cast ones are replacements?
It is unbranded as such but does have "Made in Germany " under the cab windows '
A little part of me is hoping that our experts on European Loco's might be able to assist in a formal identification ? I am getting an "Issmayer Vibe" but that might be just wishful thinking ? ( I really want it to be one LOL! )
Tender I am thinking is maybe not native to the loco and looks perhaps Bing?
The second one was bought locally here in Australia and the seller had absolutely no idea what it was and didnt even attempt to hint a name on the listing ... I am pretty sure its an early electric outline Bing , which would be a stupidly rare thing to find natively here in Australia .
I am not sure but perhaps it has been re-motored as looking at the photos the axles do not line up properly with the body, but I would think it pretty rare to have an early locomotive here ( that is not via a collector) let alone another mech that would fit it ?
