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Don @Don McErlean thanks for the post. I just learnt something new. My TCA standard of the world book doesnโ€™t detail the information about the 4 or 5 line stamping. I have the copper journal box series and an orange 809 dump with 4 lines. I need the 805 box car to complete my series, of one of each car offering. I usually donโ€™t try to get each variation. However, I may have to add a green 5 line to my lookout list. Would that 5 line version been available with the copper journal?

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