Fatman,
yes, was made before 1917.
Sometimes even the knowledge of the experts is not enough. here a car from the Carette catalogs 1911 and 1914, of which the manufacturer is still unknown. It's made too cheaply even for Issmayer.
And again news in the collection.
Bub electric loco from the 50s.
Issmayer tunnel around 1930.
Small Adolf Schuhmann coach for 28 mm gauge from the 20s.
I donยดt have a Schuhmann loco in this size, here with a matching Bub loco.
Arne