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Reply to "UP #844 Southbound to Denver today"

breezinup posted:
Hot Water posted:
Dominic Mazoch posted:
OGR Webmaster posted:

The diesel is doing a nice job shoving her along...

Next year they can use UP 4014 without the helper?

Nope. That train is VERY heavy, and they have a tight schedule, so there is always additional horsepower required.

It was my understanding that the diesels in these trains are there mostly for additional braking.

No, not the the Cheyenne to Denver and return route. There are some pretty good grades, in either direction, and the added diesel provides much need additional HP, as well as dynamic braking on the down grades.

It may be that the 844 could well handle this consist on its own.

No, not by a long shot, especially trying to make 70 MPH with that heavy train. I was Fireman on the July 2010 CFD train, and even with the DDA40X #6936, we had 844 at full throttle and the 6936 in run 8, and it was no picnic!

I'm not going to take the time to compare pulling power, but years ago, when the Challenger was here in Dallas (pulling a fairly long consist), I asked the engineer if that was a significant load for the engine. His reply was "Nah, it's just loafing."

In Dallas, that would have been true. But NOT between Denver and Cheyenne, when trying to make such a tight schedule (the goal is for the CFD Special to arrive in Cheyenne in time for the Frontier Days Parade and then the opening ceremonies).

 

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