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Fatman posted:

The Hornby Gods were a little kind to me so for Christmas I have some new treasures coming

An early No.00 or M1(?) loco and tender from around 1923-6 This was one of the cheapest loco's and unusually does not have the fixed key with it being a short shaft version   .. Cheap Cute and Survived

Hornby was a little confused in marketing/labelling these trains they started life as "The Hornby Clockwork Train" in 1920 then as the Model No.0 then as the cheaper set was made the Model No.00 , then copped description in some circles as the (M1) ,then with the George the Fifth versions arrived they were renamed the M-Series No.3 ( M3) and again cos we werent confused enough, Mr Hornby in 1928 allocated the M3  to an entirely different bodied edition LOL!

As part of the deal I also got a spare locomotive and three more tenders ( of differing numbers/sets, M1 M3)

This loco as you can see DOES have the fixed key clockwork movement and I think that makes the top photo locomotive a first run of the series still having the unit from the original Hornby Clockwork Train , the top locomotive is also nut and bolt construction indicating its early

 

Fatman, where to start. Well, the loco in the top picture is an M1, the M3 was a different loco and it appears to have had the mech changed, going by the wheels. These locos were always slot and tab construction too.

 

And you appear to have confused about 4 different locos in your 3rd paragraph! 😊  "The Hornby Clockwork Train" was the original Hornby set in 1920, nut and bolt construction, and became the No1 loco and tender in 1921. The other train introduced in 1920 was the tinprinted train, sold as such without the Hornby name. It became the No 00 around1925. This later became the M3, and was replaced when they ran out of bits around 1928, with the very rare version of the M3, which was a No 0 loco without buffers of company lettering.

Complicated, isn't it?! 😊

Cheers, Mark

 

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