Thanks to all of you, you have given me some things to think about with this for sure.
So pullmor motors are not as good at low speed and may be louder? Is that correct.
The single motor is good to know, since while I have a generally flat 8x8 but with future expansion planned, I do like long freight trains. I could definitely see those pulling a long string of piggybacks.
Serows1 your picture makes this even more enticing. I'm still trying to determine what I think of the stamped handrails. They look thick, but when moving not sure how noticeable it will be.
I've had some PS-1 loco electronics issues, which a forum member is currently getting fixed for me thankfully. That said, I'm not opposed to going that route again, as there is good value to be had there too, but I also can't get a NKP Geep.
