Guitarmike posted:modeltrainsparts posted:LaramieJoe posted:D500 posted:Bought some 1X4's today at Lowe's for my small layout expansion benchwork. I noticed the tags on the ends:
Now, does anyone find this hilarious besides me? Using some of the most expensive labor on earth - German, this was grown, harvested, milled, cut, shipped across an ocean to me, in the Gulf South, where billions of board feet of lumber were cut and shipped all over the country and the world, and countless logging railroads prospered, and where thousands of square miles of timber still grow...well, you get my point.
We're just running out the clock.
Man, you could not have said it better: We are indeed just running out the clock.
Cindy and I are driving around the country at the moment, having just passed through Southern Oregon which at one time had lots of logging going on. Not any more. About 25% of what it once was. Sad to see. And then to see this! Made in Germany! WTH?
I know the answer. Any time anyone proposes more logging, the environmental whack jobs get involved and before you know it, we have spent oodles of money and carbon moving lumber from somewhere else in the world willing to take advantage of their own resources. Lumber is a Class A renewable resource.
So sad.
Doc, Sorry but you're WRONG! Germany has much more stringent environmental regulations (Fact - United Nations) than we do. It's really simply about profit (NOT a bad thing). In the late 1970's the average CEO's compensation was about 20 times that of his workers'. Today it is over 400 times that of his workers' (Fact - U.S. Dept. of Labor). Please if you're going to make statements get your facts right and don't name call ("wack jobs"). Not trying to start an argument; just correcting facts (the same as if someone claimed our transformer's output was 110V AC!).
What does a ceo's pay have to do with what Doc said? In the USA we have severly restricted logging for a number of environmental reasons, this more than doubled the cost of wood products. The cost of quality US made lumber is now so high it is profitable to ship and sell German produced lumber here.
The unintended consequences of feel good policies such as this always result in more damage to the global environment and increased costs than if we would have left it alone.
Mike, i would prefer to take this to a private conversation before it gets deleted, but you have not listed your email. Germany: In spite of stricter environmental regs.; higher or as high workman's wages, lower CEO's compensation = lower selling prices. Reason for higher prices in U.S. is CEO's disparity in compensation levels ALONG with a variety of other complex (shouldn't be a part of an RR forum) reasons. It's easier to come up with a simplistic answer and blame someone else ("environmentalists") and name call ("wack jobs"). My email is listed and i'll give you my phone # if you wish to continue this discussion.
