Ukaflyer posted:In the past I seem to remember that hi-rail and flyer was referring to wheel profiles rather than brand/manufacturer. Are you now saying Tom that anything with the Flyer name is now regarded as Flyer irrespective of wheel profile? Then you say that by looking at the flanges they will denote which category an item fits.
Jonathan mentioned above he has a Lionel/Flyer Pacific that runs on code 100, but by your definition because it has the word Flyer in it, it has to be regarded as Flyer, I find that hard to grasp. It seems that various people have different views on how to define the same topic.
Looking at the NMRA link I see that the rail profile is 125, so on that basis if something can operate on 125 track, irrespective of it being alleged hi-rail, Flyer then they must all be compatible. Are we not then working to a standard which is denoted by track profile and not so hung up on wheel profile?
So coming back to my question on the Y3, that has to be regarded as Flyer and not hi-rail then.
I'm sure I am not in the minority of being confused on this topic
First, did you watch the video?
I call it Flyer because that is the name everybody associates with early ‘tin plate’, ‘traditional’ or ‘vintage’ S gauge. And yes, it does come down to what rail the flange will run on which will include the flangeway on the turnout.
IMHO, I would say the wheel type also indicates the market the item is targeting. The Y3 with Flyer flanges… it is certainly not scale or Hi-rail, is it? If the Flyonel Pacific will run on code 100, it could be scale until you take into consideration the flange way on the turnout. If it will operate through a scale turnout, then it is scale. If it won’t, then it would be Hi-rail. Perhaps Jonathan can tell us that bit of info. I would be surprised if it could, but at this distance I can’t say.
Confusion only comes in when people go out of their way to make it confusing. Like trying to include details or the scenery as part of the definition. Then trying to include all the hybrids into a category doesn’t help either. For example, I have a Flyer boxcar with a body mounted Kadee #5… that doesn’t make it scale.
Tom Stoltz
