Tagged With "Wiring"

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24AWG SUPER FLEX wire offered soon

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
We will be, in the very near future, be offering #24AWG SUPER FLEX electrical hook up wire. Please stay tuned. Dave, LBR
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26AWG ULTRA FLEX WIRE IS HERE

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
26AWG PVC Coated Ultra Flexible Sub-Miniature & Microminiature Wire For General Model Train Use Where Flexing Without Work Hardening Properties Are A Must. Teathers, etc. 10 ft. roll, BLACK: $12.50 ea. (includes shipping in CONUS) BUY HERE: http://lbrenterprisesllc.homes...html?_=1455800106706 Dave, LBR
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ALL SCALES: L.E.D. ultimate hook up wire

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
SUPER FLEX L.E.D. Hook Up Wire We can now offer you the most incredible hook up wire for L.E.D.'s you have ever used. 100% better than magnet wire. SILICON COATED, COPPER, STRANDED 32AWG WIRE. We are offering this NEW WIRE in ten (10) foot rolls for only $10.00 per roll while our supplier can keep it in stock (includes shipping in CONUS). Stronger than magnet wire as it is stranded and insulation doesn't scrape off so easily when going through a metal aperture. If you are into using L.E.D.'s...
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ALL SCALES: 26AWG Super Flex Wire Soon

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
Coming to our L.E.D. page will be the most used gauge of wire for model trains now days. We will be offering 26AWG SUPER FLEX wire in ten (10) foot rolls. Somewhat higher in price than the Teflon coated 26AWG wire but well worth the difference do to it's flexing capabilities when used for a tether or other applications where flexibility is a must. Dave, LBR
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American Flyer 565 Wiring problem.

Streamlined Steamroller ·
I recently bought a big lot of O gauge trains and in one of the boxes was a beet up AF 565 in O gauge. It is a really cool engine so I thought I would get it running. I have cleaned all the contacts but no dice. I have gotten it running in reverse and...
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1970 era sounds of steam tender trouble

Waynestrains ·
Hey everyone new to train repair but love to fix my own stuff . Well with that said can anyone tell me where the wire from the pickup contacts  on a 1970era Pennsylvania tender with sos sound board is wired to on the board . Any help is greatly appreciated this tender came with a 8141 engine 
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Bachmann EZ-Streets - impulse purchase by a newbie...

Murnane ·
I recently picked up a 16" loop of Bachmann EZ-Streets track and a pack of the 3" straights (or perhaps 4") at my LHS.  This was a complete impulse purchase but I thought it'd be fun to try out my Lionel Crew Car or my Lionel Christmas Hand...
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automatic train control wiring question

Thomas C ·
I have an 82N semaphore and a 137 station; both have the stop control. I need internal wiring diagrams for both. Can't seem to find the details I need to connect the internal wiring that has come apart on both.
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Atlas turntable power

Porsche1662 ·
Hi Guys, working on my turntable this weekend. I have 14 lines coming off. Im trying to figure the best way to power each line.  Do I need to run a separate line to the port terminal block for every one or can I wire two terminal strip close to the turntable then one line to PTB ?  If I can should I use a heavier ga wire from each TS to the PTB ?  Or do you recommend a separate transformer for this? layout is 9x22 with 3 loops and the turntable...
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30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
In the very near future we will be carrying the much sought after 30AWG stranded, teflon coated L.E.D. electrical installation wire. Initial colors will be BLACK, RED & GRAY and will come in 24 ft. rolls. PRICE: $10.50 ea. (Includes Shipping In CONUS) Dave, LBR
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32AWG SUPER FLEX Electrical Wire Soon

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
In the very near future we will be carrying the much sought after 32AWG stranded, SUPER FLEXL.E.D. electrical installation wire. Initial colors will be BLACK, RED & GRAY and will come in 24 ft. rolls. PRICE: $15.25 ea. (Includes Shipping In CONUS) Dave, LBR
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A tale of two SW9s with problems

pittsburghrailfan ·
I may or may not have posted about this before. My local club has a pair of MTH PS2 Montour SW9s, product 30-2327-1. A while back, both engine started operating erratically. One of the two has sounds and lights, but does not respond to a DCS track signal or get found by the remote. Sometimes, when it is placed on a track, the sound and lights turn on, other times it remains dark. The other SW9, after running on my home layout for a bit, lost sound totally, no emissions whatsoever. The...
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Best way to repair MTH wire work?

Pittsburger ·
Hello all,  I just received my new MTH premier SP GS4 Daylight and have been enjoying it a lot. Either in the packaging or the opening, one of the wires on the side of the locomotive was damaged and separated from the boiler. I've attached a picture of the spot where the separation took place. I don't feel it is necessary that I send the train back for repairs as it may have been my fault and is quite easy to do What method would you suggest I use to fix this? Is superglue a good...
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DCS and wiring

Art Lites ·
I have a small layout ( 12x 14) that I am constructing. I have read Barrys book and I am planning my wiring.  The layout consists of two reverse loops on the bottom with sidings and two continuous loops on a second level. I would attach RR plan...
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Gargraves track and outside rails

paul4653 ·
DCS system using Gargraves track. Since outside rails are not electrically connected ... do I need to wire both?
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HELP - Need wiring information from a train veteran! (pix)

eggy ·
Hi all.  First Post.  Need some quick help with a wiring Q I'll try to explain... pic at bottom will help me explain it so much better...  also any other ideas/thoughts are appreciated. I need to extend the wire from the Remote switch for my fastrack to the controller (flip switch pictured).  The wire is still connected at the actual track switch wire and then to a phone wire to give me more length.  My prob is trying to find out what color wire (and what they do)...
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How to strip insulation off very thin wires

Ed Walsh ·
I purchased some pre-wired nano LEDs. The wires are stranded with insulation. The wire is very very thin. I am having a problem trying to strip off the insulation without actually cutting off the wire at the same time. No matter how I try to strip the insulation back I end up cutting the wire. I would appreciate any tips you might have. Thanks, Ed
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Re: 30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
This is stranded copper wire with a Teflon coating. Dave, LBR
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Re: 30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon

CharlieS ·
What are some of the applications for 30 gauge wire?
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Re: 30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon

Norton ·
Way back the larger diameter (AWG???) wire wrap wire was teflon coated. Later the smaller .014" wire is kynar coated. I have a few thousand yards of the small stuff and its what I use for LEDs, opto sensors, etc. hopefully Dave will be offering appropiate wire strippers. A lot of strippers will have trouble with teflon. I use No Niks which work great but may be NLA. Pete
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Re: 30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
Mostly used for LED's and small electrical motors where limited space is problematic. Dave, LBR
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Re: 30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
We probably, at some point, offer a wire stripper but at present not. IMO the No-Niks strippers are great but cost prohibitive at $40.00 or more each. Dave, LBR
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Mike CT ·
Tin coating is used as a corrosion inhibitor, Even copper when subject to weather and moisture will form oxides and most likely sulfates, blue/green colors, which adds resistance to terminations. Automotive wiring subject to salts and corrosives, would do well to be tin plated, IMO. There are also additives, pastes, that can be use to increase/protect terminations in addition to the plating. Some crimp connectors will have the paste include as part of the connector. A 500 ft roll of single...
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Michael Hokkanen ·
My LHS use 18 for everything so I followed suit. Solid wire is definitely much easier to hook up to accessories. I think 20 should also be fine. This comes from working with BOTH...... (stranded and solid)
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

gunrunnerjohn ·
A tip for using stranded wire for accessories, just tin the ends so the connections are using "solid" wire, but you have the flexibility of stranded wire.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

PJB ·
I've tinned 24 awg stranded and, because of how thin it is / how few strands there are, I found that it snaps easily. Hence, why I now prefer solid for thin wire needs. Regarding Fleabay - every seller is obviously different, but I bought wire twice from 2 different sellers and in both cases it was old or poorly stored, brittle and crumbly. Caveat emptor. Peter
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

cjack ·
Any time you tin stranded wire, it is prone to breaking. The auto industry never tins or solders connectors for this reason. They crimp connections. One exception I found were BMW motorcycle harnesses. They bond multiple connection wires of the same circuit together inside a harness but only in a straight run. I think anytime there is movement or vibration, a soldered connector or wire end will tend to break.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

gunrunnerjohn ·
Hmm... I have no such issue with tinning the ends of stranded wire, and I've been using that technique for years.
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Re: ALL SCALES: L.E.D. ultimate hook up wire

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
Mark, Here is the photo you have requested of our #32AWG stranded SILICON COATED electrical wire for hooking up L.E.D.'s Dave, LBR
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Re: ALL SCALES: L.E.D. ultimate hook up wire

prrhorseshoecurve ·
So do you have a picture of this amazing wire?
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Re: ALL SCALES: L.E.D. ultimate hook up wire

CUSTOM "O" DECALS ·
A photo wouldn't show much as one wire looks pretty much like another. But, if everyone wants a photo we will post one. OK? Dave, LBR
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Re: 30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon

aussteve ·
This is encouraging that a hobby dominated by "old, white men" per the WSJ, has such a demand for small gauge wire. ALL SCALES: 26AWG Super Flex Wire Soon ALL SCALES: L.E.D. ultimate hook up wire 32AWG SUPER FLEX Electrical Wire Soon 30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon Maybe we're not that old after all.
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Re: 30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon

gunrunnerjohn ·
I use #30 wire-wrap wire, works great and the insulation is very robust. However, wire-wrap wire is solid wire, not stranded.
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Re: 30AWG Teflon Coated Wire Available Soon

stan2004 ·
I realize you're not asking a trick question, but here's a trick answer. Another application of 30 gauge wire is to make stranded wire. For example, 22 gauge stranded wire is typically made with 7 strands of 30 gauge wire!
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Re: ALL SCALES: L.E.D. ultimate hook up wire

gunrunnerjohn ·
Uhh... NO. You can probably argue the "Stronger than magnet wire", but the " and being stranded it carries electricity much better " is indefensible. At low frequencies or DC, a solid wire of the same core diameter will be better than stranded for carrying current. As frequency rises, a point will come where stranded wire will be better; it will be able to take a higher current than a solid core of the same diameter. However, the so-called "skin effect" is only for insulated strands, plain...
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

PJB ·
People always say "it's a personal preference," but that's silly. Because all my power drops are OGR stranded 14 AWG and had a bad experience with some old brittle solid 22AWG wire, I purposely stuck to stranded for everything. But, I realized brittle old solid isn't a good test case. And, as I've recently discovered, when working with fine wire, like 22AWG and finer, solid is much easier to work with because it doesn't fray or require tinning.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

overlandflyer ·
there is one thing about solid wire which you have to watch out for. when you strip the end, make sure you do not nick (even slightly) the wire itself. if you do, it will only a few bends and the single conductor will snap off. for very thin wires (< 26 ga), i use No-Nik strippers exclusively... cheers...gary
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Ace ·
There is no fixed rule for what gauge of wire to use for track power or accessory power. It all depends on the length of wire and how many amps it will carry. A voltage drop calculator (Google it) can be used to figure adequate wire gauge for a specific application.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

overlandflyer ·
i often sit back and smile at these conversations, and i won't offer any counter argument, but if you actually did some practical research on this, 20 ga. wire in open air (how most train layouts are wired), will easily pass 5-6 amps which is a lot more power than any of my trains draw. AWG tables are hugely conservative for maximum power transmission (i.e. usually calculated as bundled wires over km distances) and even pushed to its maximum capacity 20 ga solid copper wire will drop less...
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Mike CT ·
14 ga solid for track circuits. 18 ga solid thermostat wire for all accessory/switch control . Layout wiring . Click on the link for a slideshow.
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Dan Padova ·
There is some 20 gauge tinned solid copper wire for sale on Evilbay. I suspect the tinning will improve soldering capability.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Ace ·
The only advantage for stranded wire is that it is more resistant to damage from frequent flexing. Solid wire is generally cheaper, and entirely satisfactory for your purpose. I recall once talking to a store clerk about solid vs. stranded wire of the same gauge for automotive applications. He said stranded wire was better because electricity travels on the surface of the wire, and stranded wire has lots more surface area. That's total BS !!!
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

JohnGaltLine ·
Actually it isn't total BS, it just only applies to very high frequency currents. The effect is meaningless to anything in model trains or general household use, but it does exist. As far as layout wiring goes, use whichever you prefer. Solid is probably easier to get a clean strip and to attach to things, where as stranded is easier to fish through to the location. JGL
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cjack ·
Actually it's partially true. But not in this case. It's the omissions of details that were left out. Higher frequency current does travel on the surface of the wire. It's called skin effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect In the case of ordinary stranded wire, the surface area does not increase much since the wires are all shorted together. Stranded Litz wire does have a reduced resistance to higher frequency ac current because all the strands are insulated from each other.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Ace ·
That's very interesting. Thanks for the info, guys.
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Gregg ·
I'm thinking about a" short circuit "to either the track or accessory.. 20 gauge in my opinion is just tooo small. I want something that will handle a little more current.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

gunrunnerjohn ·
Unless you have very long runs, I'd think that #16 would be sufficient. UL thinks it's good enough to plug into 15A branch circuits for extension cords! Obviously, if you run larger wire, you get less voltage drops.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Dan Padova ·
For my track power I did use 14 gauge stranded wire. But for everything else, 14 gauge is too bulky to work with. I did check with the seller on the tinned wire. He assures me that it is tin coated copper. The reason I asked him is that $49.95 for 600 feet of 20 gauge copper wire on six rolls, each a different color, seems like a very good price.
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cjack ·
Price is good but in the ball park. Farm and Fleet here sells 18 ga stranded copper, 100 feet rolls for $9 each.
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Dan Padova ·
Thanks for all of the replies. A wealth of information to retain.
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