Tagged With "CONVENTION"

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Conventional, LionChief & MTH DCS Remote Commander Question

EddieZ ·
As you can see, I have a mix of trains.  I was wondering, if I have a single loop with sidings can I run a conventional set and a controlled set on the same (loop) layout.   This is what I envision.  MTH or LionChief on siding, not moving, Conventional in neutral on second siding.  Start conventional adjusting speed by transformer, then park conventional back on siding in neutral and start up MTH or LionChief.   Thanks, EddieZ
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DCS Operation in Conventional Mode

Bob Golfs ·
I must admit to some confusion about this, but my basic question - if i crank the variable TIU input/output to 18 volts, can I operate a PS3 engine as if it were running on the fixed output channel?  In other words, are all of the DCS control functions still available to me?   Thanks, Bob
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EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

arcticrail ·
Hello all, Feel pretty silly for posting this but I've spent a couple hours surfing the web and the forums here for an answer and no luck yet.  I'm sure I'm missing something obvious... I just purchased a Lionel EM-1 and have been trying to get it to move on conventional power.  I have an MTH Z4000 for power.  When I power it up, I get sounds, and the bell and whistle function correctly.  In neutral, the lights are all on and the smoke generator works.  Actuating the...
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Great Train Show in St. Charles, MO this coming weekend!

Ingeniero No1 ·
Just a reminder - The Great Train Expo/Show will be at the St. Charles Convention Center (Missouri) Saturday and Sunday, 30 & 31 January, Alex
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Re: Question About the Lionel Conventional K4

ES44AC ·
No one?
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Re: The Mass Transit & Trolley Modelers' Convention Spring 2016

John DeAlto ·
NYC,SUBWAY TRANSIT SIGNAL Thank you,John
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Re: The Mass Transit & Trolley Modelers' Convention Spring 2016

Nate ·
We are going back to our original venue. Set up will be on Friday June 3 rd starting at 2:00PM. The dealers and module folks will not have to rush. Check out the post by Steve which contains all the information. We will update the network as we get closer to the meet. We look forward in seeing many old friends and making new ones. Nate
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Barry Broskowitz ·
Dick, An observation... From your diagram, unless you turn off the DCS signal via the DCS Remote, your engines are always seeing a DCS signal, since the TIU is actually set up in Passive TIU mode when you have the MRC connected to the "conventional" side of your power switch.
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

gunrunnerjohn ·
FWIW, MTH had a little poster in their test area when I was down there specifically mentioning the MRC as an incompatible transformer. Not sure why it should be, but just an observation.
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Gregg ·
You could try the dcs remote for the whistle/ bell combination with a var channel. As Barry mentioned the dcs signal must be turned OFF. Menu/system/ dcs set up /. select or highlight the channel and then OFF. Scroll the voltage up to around 10 volts and do the combination.
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Barry Broskowitz ·
Menu/system/ dcs up/ Just to clarify... Menu/System/DCS Setup and press soft key AOF
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Gregg ·
Thanks Barry.
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Re: EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

chris a ·
Thanks for posting this TRW, my EM-1 is showing same symptom.... It's nice to be able to come here do a search and find a posting like this.
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Dick Autz ·
Killing the DCS signal worked for me, now I can postpone a rewire. Thanks
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Dick Autz ·
Barry, The reason for the switch was for the guys at my club who won't touch the DCS control. I'm disappointed that they just don't want to learn about DCS. I guess they were just humoring me when they let me install it. By the way, I attended the York seminars last fall and bought the 3rd Edition and its well worth it, as I am slowly making my way thru. Many thanks.
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Dick Autz ·
Well Guys, you really know your stuff. I isolated the TIU from the track first and was able to use any of the bell/whistle commands just fine. The stubborn engine that would not move is fine now. Your suggestions helped me think thru the poor wiring and switch position I used and I will change it around so the switch isolates the TIU from the track when running conventional. Comments elsewhere to add 10A fuses between track and power sources sound like a good idea too. The MRC Power supply...
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Barry Broskowitz ·
Dick, I will change it around so the switch isolates the TIU from the track when running conventional. Just remove the switch altogether. It's completely unnecessary. To operate your DCS engines conventionally, just use the Menu command to turn off the DCS signal on all channels. Then, to later operate under DCS, use the same menu command with the AON soft key to turn the DCS signal back on. This and a whole lot more is all in “ The DCS Companion 3rd Edition " , available for purchase from...
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Lionel Rio Grande #5484 Review Now on Youtube!

Dan's Trains ·
I just uploaded my latest video on Youtube. It's a review of my Lionel Rio Grande conventional FT diesel locomotive. I've had it for awhile now and it is hands down one of my favorite conventional engines. It's very fun to run on any layout. I'm...
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Question About the Lionel Conventional K4

ES44AC ·
Just wondering if this engine features whistle steam, does it have some form of speed control, if the marker lights work, and how do the sounds compare to the Legacy version?
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MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

bkb452 ·
I set up a small 7 x 3 layout using a Z 1000 transformer. I can not run any of my Proto 2 engines on it. They start up with sound and lights but will not move forward or reverse. I have tried the reset (1 horn/5 bells) with the transformer but still...
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PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Dick Autz ·
I found GGG's solution of 1W 5B Engine reset in Conventional mode and tried it. No luck. I have 4 PS3 Engines that all work well in DCS mode. Three of these operate in Conventional mode, however my 30-1638-1 Camelback B&O Steamer will not move. It starts up, smokes, bell and whistle work but won't respond to direction button. Try as I may I cannot get any of the 4 PS3 Engines to respond to an Engine Reset sequence. I never hear "toot-toot" acknowledging the command. I'm using a MRC Pure...
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ps3 availability

Keith Buenzow ·
How readily are the ps3 upgrade kits avaialble? Are they in LHS yet and is there still a discount from MTH direct for Club Members? Will they work on Bachman by Williams E7 Burlington Conventional Engines.
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TTOS Baby Madison Convention Set for trade or sale

ChasP ·
I have a set of TTOS Convention baby Madison passenger cars from 1974 through 1977 including an extra 9512 coach. I intended to repaint them into the Pullman Green Madisons I remember from my youth, but didn't want to proceed without giving a TTOS member the option to obtain them as a collection . All appear to be in original boxes in apparent unused condition though they appear to have been out of the boxes at some point, and the box ends are faded and in some cases torn, with most...
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TTOS Baby Madison Convention Set for trade or sale

ChasP ·
Sorry for double post! I needed to be more attentive before posting! I'll try to do better! TTOS Baby Madison Convention Set for trade or sale See Home/The OGR On-line Forum/National Club News/TTOS News/TTOS Baby Madison Convention Set for trade or sale for details!
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TCA 2016 Convention Cars Available Today!

GG1 4877 ·
As many of you know, I have had several roles in TCA over the last 14 years of my membership.  My latest committee assignment is Chair of the Convention Car Committee.  I am pleased to pass on that cars for the 2016 convention to be held in...
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Re: MTH DCS Commander

Cta Howard All/Stop ·
The DCS Commander cannot run ps1 engines in conventional mode. You will have to use a z-controller to run the engine. Ps1 engines works with AC power supply, the DCS Commander can use AC or DC power supply but it has a bridge rectifier built in it, so it only output DC power. For conventional use the engine has to be a DC conventional engines or a ps2 (3-volt boards only) engine or newer ps3 engines.
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Re: MTH DCS Commander

Barry Broskowitz ·
Howard, the DCS Commander will operate any PS2 (3 volt or 5 volt) or PS3 engine in DCS mode, regardless of what you might have heard.
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Re: MTH DCS Commander

Landon Eshbach ·
Thanks guys!
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Re: MTH DCS Commander

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Landon, Think of your P1 engines as a conventional engine that talks, the only way you can run it with remote control is with the full DCS, Z4K and side receiver. The DCS hand held remote control can then run any conventional engine on track power, from the DCS hand held remote control. The DCS Commander was not engineered to make this happen. The DCS using the Z4K with the side receiver is a much more complex engineering package than the DCS Commander. PCRR/Dave
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Re: MTH DCS Commander

Barry Broskowitz ·
Dave, Not exactly. One can operate conventional engines on the TIU's variable channels without using a Z4000 Remote Commander Receiver.
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Re: MTH DCS Commander

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Barry, I thought we were talking remote control, not controlling from the main power base, I stated it poorly, my fault. PCRR/Dave
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Re: MTH DCS Commander

Barry Broskowitz ·
Dave, Yes, we were discussing remote control The TIU variable channels were designed to modify voltage from the DCS remote and therefor are well-suited to operate conventional engines.
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Re: MTH DCS Commander

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Barry, I forgot you could even set up that way, you are once again correct as to your engineering. PCRR/Dave
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Re: MTH DCS Commander

Barry Broskowitz ·
Dave, Hey, even a blind squirrel occasionally finds an acorn!
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Lionel Ac 6000 w/ Caboose and Lionel "I Love Series" I Love United States of America SD-60

Dan's Trains ·
What's up everybody. Online, I just bought an AC 6000 CSX Heritage "Clinchfield" diesel, the matching caboose and  the I Love USA SD 60. In the near future, I may auction off the AC 6000 and the caboose. Though, I'd be kinda bummed about...
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MTH DCS Commander

Landon Eshbach ·
I just received the MTH DCS Commander for my birthday and I was wondering why I couldn't run my MTH PS1 K-4 steam engine.  I followed the instructions on how to hook up the commander to conventional mode, but when I put the K-4 on the track and...
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The Mass Transit & Trolley Modelers' Convention Spring 2016

Transit Modeler ·
This year we will be having a convention in the spring in place of the old Boston meets. It will take place on June 4th 2016 at The Rutgers Student Center, New Brunswick, NJ. The theme of the meet will be Elevated Railways. There will be a special presentation by Joseph Frank regarding modelling rapid transit. There will be many great vendors and operating layouts in various scales representing streetcar, rapid transit, interurban rail, and commuter rail. The information is posted on our...
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

gunrunnerjohn ·
I just replaced the 5V boards in one that had the white battery and developed a charging circuit fault that I couldn't remedy. When I put the battery on a charger, it was almost a dead short, I suspect pushing on that for too long is what killed the charging circuit.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

bkb452 ·
I do have the external MTH charger and extra MTH batteries. I will try charging first. Thanks Bob
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Bob, It does sound like you have a very weak battery, get rid of the batteries in your P2 engines and install a BCR, most times this fully eliminates this problem. PCRR/Dave
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

ReadingFan ·
I recall a thread that discussed incompatibility between early Z-1000 transformers and sound systems. Can you try another transformer?
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Reading Fan, Good catch, I forgot that some engines do not match well with the Z-1000 transformer! PCRR/Dave
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