Tagged With "CONVENTION"

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Lionel Conventional Classic Sets - Pictures Posted - Sale Pending

cwp_ogr ·
I am selling the following four Lionel Conventional Classic sets. All sets are new-in-box. Prices include shipping to addresses in the lower 48. Payment via PayPal, check, or money order. I will post pictures soon. 6-38354 - 1464W Union Pacific Anniversary Twin Alco Passenger Set, no papers - $300 6-38329 - #2261WS Steam (646) Freight Hauler Set - $325 6-38324 - #2507W New Haven F-3 Diesel Freight - $400 6-38339 - 2505W Virginian Rectifier Freight Set - $400
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Conventional Classics 6-31778 lower price

roundtownrr ·
American Flyer Warrior set. 4693 Engine and tender are in nice shape and loco functions properly. The 4331 cars are good shape also, but two have shiny roofs, two roofs are dull. One of them has litho doors. The 4332 observation is in good shape too.SOLD 2338 Milwaukee engine in ok shape. E unit works and the engine is a great runner. Sold 6-31778 1484ws Hudson set. Conventional classics set is in like new shape. The 2056 functions perfectly and the whistle and bell are loud and clear. Smoke...
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csx dash 8 40c, replacing e unit

Trainmaster7500 ·
i have a nice conventional duel motor CSX dash 8 40c and recently the liontech e unit inside had stoped working, im wondering what kind of e unit i should purchase to replace it.
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Lionel StationSound Diner - Conventional or DCS Compatability

Carl Peduzzi ·
Dear all, We are currently running a DCS only system. Lionel Legacy is a future possibility but not anytime soon. We are looking at purchasing a Lionel StationSounds diner for our layout, though we weren’t sure of how well it would work with MTH DCS. My questions are... will it work with regular DCS track voyage (18v) and just provide random sounds if we don’t have a Legacy system? Does anyone have experience with running these cars on DCS/conventional without Legacy? Any info appreciated?
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Conventional PRR 0-4-0 6-11380 Sound and Lights Work, but Stopped Moving

Mark Boyce ·
I purchased a great looking and sounding Conventional PRR 0-4-0 6-11380 from a fellow on a FaceBook Group I am on. It was an attractive price. When I first put it on the track and applied power, I saw that the sound and lights came on right away, and when I cycled the power with the handle of my Z4000, it started moving forward chuffing along. I switched it to neutral, then reverse. It started moving in reverse for about one foot, then stopped. The sound and lights stayed on. Now I can't get...
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Ugrade conventional engine to TMCC?

Roger Elliott ·
I am getting a conventional K-line Big Boy steam loco for my son's layout. He has a table where he will design and set up a track and then run his LionChief locomotives on it. Is it possible to get an upgrade kit that will convert this conventional engine so he can run it with his LionChief engines?
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Lionel Remake Girls Pink Set Conventional Classic

twistedridez ·
Looking to buy a girls set (Pink) conventional classic set Remake Thanks Chris
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Lionel Conventional Classics GG1 ??

Dan Padova ·
I may be mistaken, but I don't believe Lionel ever made a GG1 with traction tires. There's one advertised on Ebay, "Lionel 6-38303 Pennsylvania GG1 #2340 Post War Conventional Classics 2008". In looking at the pictures presented by the seller, it's clear that it "had" traction tires at one time.
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DCS conventional operation

Ojim ·
I have a 44 tonner ps3.0 that work fine in DCS mode but will not move with conventional track power. When I do a factory reset it works fine conventionally. When I reset to DCS it stops working conventionally. Jim
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How do I run my Postwar Engines through DCS????

kennyb ·
Hello, I am kinda new to DCS,I've been running MTH trains foe a couple years now.One thing I cannot figure out,is how to run my postwar engines using the remote to control their speed. I have a 135 watt Lionel Brick running through a Lionel Powermaster,and then running to FIXED 1 input. Do I need to run another power(brick) to Variable 1 input???,and is it fine to leave the first brick hooked into Fixed 1,while I run in conventional??? How is this done???I have scrolled through the "MORE"...
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Re: Question About the Lionel Conventional K4

ES44AC ·
No one?
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Re: The Mass Transit & Trolley Modelers' Convention Spring 2016

Nate ·
We are going back to our original venue. Set up will be on Friday June 3 rd starting at 2:00PM. The dealers and module folks will not have to rush. Check out the post by Steve which contains all the information. We will update the network as we get closer to the meet. We look forward in seeing many old friends and making new ones. Nate
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Re: The Mass Transit & Trolley Modelers' Convention Spring 2016

John DeAlto ·
NYC,SUBWAY TRANSIT SIGNAL Thank you,John
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Re: EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

chris a ·
Thanks for posting this TRW, my EM-1 is showing same symptom.... It's nice to be able to come here do a search and find a posting like this.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

rrman ·
Assume the battery is fully charged?? Did you do the factory AND feature resets? Does engine respond to DCS commands if used??
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Engineer-Joe ·
Originally Posted by rrman: Assume the battery is fully charged?? Kill the power to them and see if you get the whole shut-down sequence. If not, let them sit on the track for some time and charge if you don't have the charger. They won't come out of neutral with a dead battery.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Bob, It does sound like you have a very weak battery, get rid of the batteries in your P2 engines and install a BCR, most times this fully eliminates this problem. PCRR/Dave
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

ReadingFan ·
I recall a thread that discussed incompatibility between early Z-1000 transformers and sound systems. Can you try another transformer?
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Reading Fan, Good catch, I forgot that some engines do not match well with the Z-1000 transformer! PCRR/Dave
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

bkb452 ·
The engines will do a full shutdown. They fully operate in DCS mode. I have done the factory reset. I hope it is not the Z 1000, I just purchased it last week. I will try new batteries next just in case they are a little week. Thanks everyone.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

bkb452 ·
How do I install a PCR?
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

bkb452 ·
Sorry, how do I install a BCR?
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

gunrunnerjohn ·
The BCR is a direct replacement for the battery, you just unplug the battery and plug in the BCR in it's place.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Barry Broskowitz ·
Your problem is almost certainly not the Z1000, unless you have it wired in some unusual way. Is this when you press Shutdown or turn off track power? Pressing Shutdown proves nothing, however, if sounds persist for 6-7 seconds after track power is turned off, then the battery is most certainly not the problem. In that case, going into the engines to change out perfectly good batteries for BCRs can only make things worse. If you'er testing the battery by simply pressing Shutdown, go back and...
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

stan2004 ·
Since you get full shutdown sounds when power is removed, I'm assuming the battery (or BCR) is good... You got the double-horn blast confirmation after issuing the conventional feature reset (1 Horn / 5 Bells) using the Z1000 controller? So that should take the PS2 engine out of neutral lock. When you press the DIRECTION button on the Z1000 controller do the lights on the PS2 engine go out - but sounds stay on with a slight but perceptible decrease in volume? I realize you can control other...
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Barry Broskowitz ·
Stan, He states: That doesn't tell me that he's turning off track power, rather that he's' pressing Shutdown.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

bkb452 ·
Ok, I tried a 3.0 and it ran no problem. Tried another 2.0 and did as Barry said and shut off power to track the engine, lights, and sound cut off. Bad battery I am assuming. My other 2.0 did stay on a little longer but not a complete shutdown. The batteries are about 5 years old. Even though I do run them on the DCS system I have noticed shutdown sounds are shorter. Now the question is new batteries or BCR? Thanks, Bob
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Barry Broskowitz ·
Charge the batteries overnight by leaving the engine on a powered track but not started up.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

GGG ·
If this engine use 8.4V battery you can go to the BCR. If it is the 2.4V battery they normally last longer so it is up to you on the added expense of a BCR. G
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

bkb452 ·
Thanks. I will charge and replace batteries and let you know what happens. Thank you everyone. Bob
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Pine Creek Railroad ·
bkb, Do as Barry advises and leave the engine on a powered track all night, you may find the only thing you needed was to fully charge the battery. When the battery finally needs replacing then replace it with a BCR. PCRR/Dave
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

GGG ·
I don't recommend charging over night especially the 8.4V version. You can do a quick charge while attended, otherwise remove battery and charge with a plug in unit, or use the MTH charger if it has a charge port. G
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Barry Broskowitz ·
George, My first choice would be to use an MTH charger, however, from the tone and content of the OP's posts, I seriously doubt that he has one. Regardless, I must disagree with your preferred choice of externally charging the battery. My experience, after literally hundreds of times charging unattended both 3 and 5 volt PS2 engines without any issues whatsoever, is that any risk of an "anomaly" while charging overnight is much smaller than the risk of inadvertent damage by a relative novice...
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

GGG ·
We have differing opinions on this Barry. IF this has an original White Battery in a PS-2 5V board you run the risk of a failure on the board and if it becomes the shorted Diode high current draw until the board fries or the transformer breaker trips. We have seen too many failures of 5V boards. So I am not a proponent of running them unattended. The quick charge will let you know if the battery can even take the charge. I am just not willing to leave a 5V running over night. G
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Barry Broskowitz ·
George, Maybe so, but I bet that there have been more self-inflicted issues by people opening up perfectly good engines when they don't have to do so. We'll just have to disagree.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Gentlemen, IMO he should just have the BCR installed by a competent tech and eliminate the battery all together. PCRR/Dave
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

gunrunnerjohn ·
I just replaced the 5V boards in one that had the white battery and developed a charging circuit fault that I couldn't remedy. When I put the battery on a charger, it was almost a dead short, I suspect pushing on that for too long is what killed the charging circuit.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

bkb452 ·
I do have the external MTH charger and extra MTH batteries. I will try charging first. Thanks Bob
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Re: EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

Former Member ·
I have seen this on a few Legacy and TMCC steamers, tt may need to be reset with a cab1 remote. That process will be in the manual.
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Re: EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

Marty Fitzhenry ·
How about an item number.
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Re: EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

PaperTRW ·
He listed the item number in his title, Marty. It sounds like you might have the problem that afflicts all 6-28051 B&O EM-1's. The "pulsating noise" you hear from the rear of the locomotive is likely the motor spinning without a firm connection to the drive shaft. All of the 6-28051 B&O EM-1's from the factory had a defect in the driveline -- the driveshaft wasn't fixed to the coupling to the motor. Lionel offers a repair service (a $20 charge) to fix it. I hope this helps. TRW
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Re: EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

arcticrail ·
Thanks for the responses guys. I did see the reset instructions in the manual, I'll have to hunt down a Cab-1 unit to do the reset. I'll check that first before checking the drive shaft. Might take a few days but I'll post a response on what I find. Have a good weekend.... Kenny
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Re: EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

J Daddy ·
Last time I tried to repair mine the parts where un-available. I was able to purchase the Allegheny drive mechanism and modify it. Note that the knuckles in the U joint tend to snap to... the plastic material tends to dry out.
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Re: EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

Marty Fitzhenry ·
It is listed now. TY.
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Re: EM-1 (6-28051) won't run on conventional power SOLVED!!

arcticrail ·
SOLVED!!! It was the coupling slipping on the shaft as PAPERTRW suggested. I ended up drilling and pinning the coupling to the shaft. Odd that the coupling already had one hole drilled but no physical means of locking the two together, go figure. In any case, thanks for the replies and suggestions, was really glad to have this one running before Christmas!! Now off to figure out why the smoke unit isn't puffing.....always something. Merry Christmas to you all! Kenny
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

Orion the Hunter ·
I found this thread when I was looking for ideas after I experienced a very similar issue with my PS 2 loco. I am confessing to a very stupid mistake that hopefully will save someone much anguish with their issue. In my case, all indications were that it was not a battery issue. Using my z1000 controler, I attempted the reset(1 horn/5bells) to no avail in getting movement from the loco. Stuck in neutral with lights and sound. Using info in this thread I also confirmed that the loco was...
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

willygee ·
As much good press as BCR's get i still use these for battery replacements. I just solder in the connector from the old battery to the new nimh replacement pack. This is of course the ps2 3v application. three shipped for less than $10.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

bkb452 ·
I have opted to switch all my PS 2 loco's over to BCR's. Not cheap as I had them done by a MTH certified repair technician. Solved the problem and I like that I do not have to worry about battery replacements or charging.
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Re: MTH Proto 2 will not run in conventional mode

John H ·
You can also solder that connector to a supercap for less than $3 and be done with it.
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Re: PS3 Engine will not move in Conventional Mode

Barry Broskowitz ·
Dick, An observation... From your diagram, unless you turn off the DCS signal via the DCS Remote, your engines are always seeing a DCS signal, since the TIU is actually set up in Passive TIU mode when you have the MRC connected to the "conventional" side of your power switch.
 
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