Tagged With "coupler"

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3rd Rail Passenger Car Couplers

Rev Richie ·
I want to replace the couplers on my 3rd Rail Lehigh Valley John Wilkes Coaches.  The OEM couplers do not open while in motion but they don't keep the cars together either.  I haven't been able to figure out why the geometry of the couplers allow them to slip apart. Can anyone suggest a coupler that will work well on 3rd Rail coaches? Thanks Rev Richie
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Atlas Couplers

Alan Hummel ·
Since I don't have the funds to convert couplers right now,nor are shelf couplers available,so I'm stuck with the Atlas 2 rail couplers. My problem is they won't couple unless slammed together unprototypically unless they are coupling to a cut of 6-10 cars. I used pencil graphite on some knuckles to no avail,so does anyone have solutions for this problem? "Slip plate," used on older farm hay bailers is used to make hay bales slide well is the only other idea I have,but this is sold in...
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Atlas CZ 21” cars Issues on O72 switches, on my layout.

tplee ·
I am hoping for feedback on methods of adjusting or modifying these cars so that I can use them on my layout consistently. I would think there should be some approach that would eliminate the issues I am having. So far I have not been able to do so. I would appreciate any advice that OGR members or The Atlas Co. may have. These are the only cars that I own that have an issue with, on my layout. It seems to be an issue with all of them at different times. I have had no problems with the Atlas...
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Coupler repair/lock?

Alex McDougall ·
I received MTH passenger cars for Christmas this year, and am very pleased with how they've been so far. Only issue I've had is a malfunctioning coupler. The coupler can often stay closed under normal operation (although it has opened a few times on curves), but will come open if put under sudden or above average (but still reasonable) pressure. Any suggestions on what to do? I've looked to replace it with a dummy, but it is attached to the entire truck mechanism. Will I have to replace...
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Final touches on Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
Just a quick update, I cut the mounts of the air hose that came with the original boxing glove and glued it to the side of the draft gear box, also cut off the coupler's magnetic trip pin. I may also apply some of the "primer" that comes with Super Glue's "Plastics Bonding Kit" to the end of the air hose so I can paint it silver. I will also apologize for not having a picture of it. : /
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Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
I just finished installing a scale coupler and fix pilot on my Atlas O Erie Built. Yesterday I put on the included pilot as it came with the cover over the coupler hole, but I realized it stuck out way too far, and we run them in freight service so it shouldn't be on there anyway. Today my dad ran up to the hobby store and got a pack of Kadees to put on it. I removed the screw that holds the cover onto the pilot. I then built up the mounting pad with three sheets of styrene, not sure how...
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Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Hi there everyone, Here is an off the wall question. Has anyone ever gotten and Engine with Kadee couplers that came with claw couplers cut off, then retro fitted the claw couplers back on some how?
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

rtr12 ·
Nice job, looks good!
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
Looks much better. Go a step further by cutting the trip pin off and add a nice air hose with glad hand to the pilot.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
That's the plan! Where is the best place could I order one? I was just going to look at the exploded parts diagram of my new ES44s and order one from Lionel, but I am sure there are better ones out there.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
I usually grab one from my parts bin. When I convert cars to Kadees I save all those air hoses. I like the MTH air hoses because they are much thinner and have a nicer glad hand than the Atlas part. I also use PSC air hoses and glad hands with real rubber hose... but usually its the MTH air hose.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
Thanks for the information. You have a part number for the MTH ones?
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

CentralFan1976 ·
Awesome! Since my Erie-built was a cob job, I had to fab the Kadee shim for the rear of my unit, but luckily the donor had sent me the 2-rail pilot with the coupler cover door.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
No I dont have an MTH part #. Whatever air hose they put on all the trucks for their 3 rail cars. It just pops off the truck, and then I cut the mount off.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
Uh oh, looks like they did use the covers in freight service! Oh well, I still like the look of the knuckle better. I'll think about it...
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Norm Charbonneau ·
Good job! I like those engines. I had them in NYC but sold them off a few years ago. Wouldn't mind finding the PRR ones someday.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Mike G, Easy buddy, I know you had a bad day and this guy is a little out of line, I hope you are OK. PCRR/Dave
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Thanks Dave!
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Bob Delbridge ·
Mike, ignore him, your post/topic is fine like it is. About the only thing you can do if you ever have a truck mounted electrocoupler pocket that needs to be replaced is to buy a new truck, I don't know if the piece that has the pocket on it can be bought separately though.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Thanks, I think I am just going to leave it as it is and if someone whats to trade me for it with Kadee's then that would be great.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Jan ·
You don't "cut-off" electrocouplers. They are disconnected and removed from the trucks. Kadees are normally mounted to the engine bodies which may have been modified. Most manufacturers have parts available that would allow you to return the engines to their original condition. What engine are you wanting to unconvert? Jan
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Lionel UP Dash 8-40c.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

bigdodgetrain ·
6 dash number!! please
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
I don't know what it is? I will have to look when I get back from Chemo treatment.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Hot Water ·
Why bother to change it? The Kadee metal couplers will couple to most large claw couplers.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Hi Jan, the number is 6-18205. Sorry about being so late, It's been a rough day!
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Bob Delbridge ·
While the electro-coupler can be removed, the coupler box, if there is one, usually gets in the way of the Kadee coupler box and has to be cut off, usually with a Dremel. Once cut off I suppose if you still had the box it could be glued back on with JB Weld, but all that I have cut off get tossed in the trash.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Hi Bob thanks, I did the same thing. I talked to Doug (Laidoffsick) before I did it. It turned out great, but now Im trading it and the guy who wants it was wondering if they could be put back on. I didn't think so but told him I would ask around on the forum.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

father.dragon ·
This locomotive didn't have electro-couplers. By the way do you criticize lionel couplers? There's more people who like them then kadees piece of ****
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Father.Dragon, I never said they had electro-couplers, I am not criticizing lionel couplers. IMO I think that Kadee Couplers look more realistic then do the claw couplers. I do not judge others on there thoughts. Here is the deal, I am trading this engine cause I want to keep my collection to MTH engines. I don't mind Lionel rolling stock cause everything I get or have get's Kadee couplers. If you wish to jump my A** over this then maybe I should delete my post. But thank you for your thoughts.
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Re: Coupler repair/lock?

guitar nut ·
I used a small black wire tie on my lionel set to keep the coupler closed. You cannot see it! Tony
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choochoopaul ·
Leave the tag end of the wire tie hanging down, at 40 MPH it looks like an air hose.
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Re: Coupler repair/lock?

guitar nut ·
That's Great! Thank you. Tony
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Re: Problem with MTH Passenger Car Couplers

C&O Allie ·
First off, welcome to the Forum!! I have the same issue (with the same cars). I used small orthodontics (braces) rubber bands nestled in the coupler to hold the hidden coupler release tab forward and that seems to have helped with mine. I haven't seen if it works with my 15 car consist, but it works fine with the 9 cars I currently have on the layout.
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Re: Problem with MTH Passenger Car Couplers

stormsrailroad ·
Thanks a lot! I'll try that out as soon as possible. Thanks for welcoming me, too. I love the auxiliary tender you put on your engine and have been working on making one for myself.
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Re: Problem with MTH Passenger Car Couplers

stormsrailroad ·
Here is the result = works great!
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Re: Problem with MTH Passenger Car Couplers

stormsrailroad ·
I just used the method so I can operate the car with the rest of the train until I head over to my local train store. I'm going to buy either new couplers, or send it back to get it fixed. Thanks for the reply!
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Re: Problem with MTH Passenger Car Couplers

C&O Allie ·
No problem. I'm glad it worked for you too. Let me know if you need help with your aux tender (like the decal template, etc).
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Re: Problem with MTH Passenger Car Couplers

Tony_V ·
I had the same problem with a PRR passenger car set I purchased last year. Only 1 car in the set had the issue. I sent it back to MTH and the replaced the offending truck. Tony
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Re: Problem with MTH Passenger Car Couplers

Tony_V ·
Yup, been there, done that! I have many older freight cars that have week couplers. They always seem to give up when I am not looking... Tony
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Re: Coupler repair/lock?

gunrunnerjohn ·
Just glue it shut if you are considering a dummy, problem solved.
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Re: Final touches on Erie Built

J Daddy ·
yes please add pictures!
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Norm Charbonneau ·
I think the exposed coupler looks way better! That cover is too bulky looking, real or model..
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

CentralFan1976 ·
I'm looking for a coupler cover, if you'd like to shed yours! ��
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Re: Final touches on Erie Built

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Steven, Looking FWD to the pictures! PCRR/Dave
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
I agree, the thing would've stuck out two feet if it were real...
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Keystoned Ed ·
Most of the first generation PRR road diesels were initially fitted with coupler covers to minimize issues when colliding with vehicles. Around the 1954/5 time frame they began to be removed as the units were shopped. I agree that the coupler covers on the FM diesels are particularly clunky looking. That's a good looking railroad Steven Michael, you are very fortunate to have a true SPF for a Dad and mentor. Ed Rappe
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Re: MTH-Coupler failure Degraded Metal

Überstationmeister ·
It is called Zincpest. 1. This is a known issue for several MTH cars and pops up from time to time. 2. You can replace the release armature lever. 3. MTH does sell the part, but I am not sure about the number (DD-13?). 4. Zincpest is a casting impurity, it can not be prevented from progressing. 5. The rest of the truck is usually good.
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