Since I think I am going to have to yank up all my track to run more power drops. I figured it might be a good time to think about possibly redesigning my current track plan. I will include what I currently have and the dimensions of my bench work. On the benchwork (labeled TrainTableExact) diagram there are some brown rectangles that roughly correspond to a false wall I plan on putting a backdrop on. It is not exact but very close. I have attached the scarm files and jpegs of my current...
Received this e-mail. May 16, 2018 MTH always puts real train history with their model locomotives, in all their catalogs. Their new announcement about the Big Boy 4014, has peak my interest in bringing a Big Boy 4014, to my train room. Click here to see: T he Historic Information about the U.P. Big Boy / MTH Catalog • 4-8-8-4 Big Boy • One Gauge. For example: This month a fellow OGR Member posted this photo of a locomotive I never saw before. I purchased the model after seeing this photo...
I've been sketching numerous track plans using Railmodeller Pro, for a 3'-0" x 12'-0" layout. It's a straight twelve foot long layout. I will be using "O" gauge track and O22 switches. I have four O72 switches on hand, 2 RH & 2 LH, if your design requires them. Locos will be RMT Beeps, Beefs and Lionel 41 and 51 type switchers. Rolling stock is standard Lionel operating cars, such as post -war coal dump cars, milk car w/platform, horse car w/corral, RMT Peep passenger cars. I have...
Well, since my first post about designing my first permanent layout two years ago, I think I have a final track plan. A lot has changed in that time, including the room that the layout will be in. Instead of a spare bedroom, I was able to procure the bonus room, so I have a 15'x'18' room to work with. The fact that my son moved in with me and needed that bedroom, made the negotiation much easier. Will also make it much easier for us to spend time together on the build. If your interested in...
As stated in the title, I am were I want to redo my layout. I have a struggle with designing a layout idea. If anybody has any suggestions or better way I can utilize the space. I am including a image and the scarm file. This aspect is not my area of expertise. The far left side that doesn't have a measurement near it is 120" long. The far right side that doesn't have a measurement near it is 84" long.
Now is a good time to start a train layout to be ready for Christmas 2018. When my brother and I were kids in the 1950s my Dad made us a Christmas 5’ X 9’ ping pong table size 027 layout. We had the Marx 999 train set and layout with oval and figure 8 with four Marx switches and we all liked to run that 999 doing lots of switching and reversing. It allows running around the oval in both directions, reversing the trains direction from either direction and running a train in a figure 8. That...
Wow, very interesting and very old layout! Here is a link with some more info: 1905 Carlisle and Finch layout I found this using Steve's information. The track gauge is 2 inches. Not exactly sure if this is the same layout or one of similar style? "the trackage ... includes three 45-degree crossings, eleven 60- degree crossings and four switches."
Hi Folks, Steve, and Ace, Great detective work and many thanks for the better photos and links!!!!!!!! No question now about it -- absolutely love it! Take care, Joe. P.S. Guess Ace will come up with a new take on the design!!!!!!!!!!
Tinplatetimes.com sez: The train navigates all of the trackage, which includes three 45-degree crossings, eleven 60- degree crossings and four switches. But in this one photo you can plainly see 5 turnouts. And the other photos plainly show some 90-degree crossings. I'm still trying to figure out the complete track plan by looking at the different photos.
Hi Ace, I have been trying to sketch it out on paper, the old fashioned way, and it is deceptively complex. I guess that someone just made a typo meaning 90 degrees but inverting the number "9" to a "6." Perhaps other typos were made. I have been trying to plot out the crossovers and switches, then sketching in the track. Not easy! Take care, Joe.
It looks like the Carlisle & Finch layout Elbridge Russell left to Fritz von Tagen. Here a couple more photos, from the McComas Layout book. Von Tagen took it apart to move it, and it may not have been reassembled exactly the same. Good luck figuring out that track plan, it's labyrinthine to say the least.
Originally Posted by Joe Rampolla: Hi Folks, Please excuse the sloppy sketch, but I think this is the basic shape of the meandering track plan. Take care, Joe. I think that's it, Joe. The switches provide reversing in both directions and some alternate routing. When I get time I'd like to draw an O27 version, but it won't include all the meanders!
Originally Posted by hojack: It looks like the Carlisle & Finch layout Elbridge Russell left to Fritz von Tagen. Here a couple more photos, from the McComas Layout book. Von Tagen took it apart to move it, and it may not have been reassembled exactly the same. Good luck figuring out that track plan, it's labyrinthine to say the least. Hi Hojack, Thanks for the additional information and photos! Take care, Joe.
Did that layout use the light bulbs to control the track voltage? I remember hearing about one that ran on house current and adjusting the bulbs adjusted the train speed. Was wondering if this is the one they were talking about.
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt: Did that layout use the light bulbs to control the track voltage? I remember hearing about one that ran on house current and adjusting the bulbs adjusted the train speed. Was wondering if this is the one they were talking about. Hi Matt, In the video that was on YouTube, the next owner was working with the light bulbs to operate the layout. Perhaps someone here could provide more info on that old type of control that I gather took the place of a transformer.
I forget where I found this photo online, but it shows the lights which I presume are wired to drop the voltage for the trains without using a transformer. It's very interesting to see such an early electric-power layout! Following is my O27 version of the track plan which is schematically similar. I omitted two turnouts to simplify but the remaining four turnouts provide reversing for both directions.
Hi Ace, I have combing through many YouTube videos but cannot find it yet. I came across it while looking at toy train layouts and the piece was professionally done by a local t.v. station, if I remember correctly. It focused on the story of the older gentleman giving or bequeathing his layout to a kind younger man who befriended the older man. The attic was rather dusty and unfinished, perhaps an old farm house. That is about the best I can remember. I did a screen captured to get the basic...
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt: Did that layout use the light bulbs to control the track voltage? I remember hearing about one that ran on house current and adjusting the bulbs adjusted the train speed. Was wondering if this is the one they were talking about. This is the one. More from the McComas Layout book: (click to enlarge to read):
Hojack, Thanks for the attachment with the explanation of the electrical control. I just got to realizing that this is 2-rail power with reversing tracks, and early layouts like this would have made people start thinking about the advantages of 3-rail for easier train reversing.
Hi Folks, Been going crazy trying to find the video, but I cannot. I have retraced my internet steps back on Jan 29 this year when I saved the screen caps and perhaps I saw something that day either here or on the other forum that lead me to that YouTube video. (I did save photos from this site on that same evening.) So if some has the TM "Great Toy Train Layouts of America" part 4 on video, please see if this rings a bell. Perhaps this is Mr. Von Tagen in the photo: Thanks! Take care, Joe.
Also working on 12x6 layout....have been through several designs and still not settled on one...I am going to use Atlas O track....you can use up to O63 minimum curves without a problem...I plan on using O54 to leave some room on the sides for scenery and/or sidings...I am also looking to operate rather then just running my trains...so there will be an inner loop of O54 with 3-4 sidings...within that I want a small town on one end and mountain scene on the other....a 4x3 section can be added...
Depend on what you like to run as to how big the curves need to be. Tubular track curves start at 27 inches(027) and go up to 72 inches(072) in Lionel style curves. Gargraves makes curves that start at 32 inches and go up to 120 inches, maybe higher. For 027 curves it makes a 27 inch circle, 072 makes about a 72 inch circle(plus pr minus a half inch due to track play). A 30 inch square would be the smallest for 027 curves and for 031 a 3 foot square would be about the smallest. Lee Fritz
Having spent the last year actively building a 12 x 25 layout on 3 levels, and having experimented with most all of the track types my track of choice is Gargraves. You can purchase directly from them and they are very helpful. My reasons are as follows: 1 - I find it the easiest to work with. I do however prefer fixed curves to flex track. 2. Very realistic looking although not necessarily the most realistic, but best look for the price. 3. Magetraction works better on it then other brands.
I use Gargraves track and have found that the size of the hole for putting a screw into the wood ties can sometimes split the ties, so I went down a drill bit size(one/sixty fourth smaller) smaller then what Gargraves recommends on the screw package and that keeps my ties from splitting as much. Lee Fritz
Way back in the late seventies I purchased a full case of Gargraves track from them directly. They were helpful then. That's when I had a "Hi-Rail" layout. I also had a couple of their turnouts and used NJ switch machines to operate them. Yes, their track is very realistic and to visitors it was something they had never seen. Toward the mid eighties, I changed my layout to an operating accessory type. I found then that "O" gauge tubular track worked best for me as the numerous activation...
seems backwards, to put a screw through the tie to fasten down the track you would want a clearance hole (larger than the diameter of the screw) not a smaller hole. if you are trying to attach a switch motor then you need a pilot hole (slightly smaller than the diameter of the screw). the smaller you make the hole, the more likely you are to split the tie.
if you are talking about Lionel type tubular, Ross and Gargraves will mate directly to Lionel tubular 027 type track with just adapter pins. Ross and Gargraves come in diameters of over 130 inches, so you basically have an infinite choice from 27" diameter to 138" or larger.
Seems like you have not worked with Gargraves wood ties or you would know that making a hole too large when drilling can split the wood and make that tie useless. It's not when you fasten the screw but when you drill the hole for the screw as there is still plenty of room for the screw to go through without problems. Lee Fritz
Remember track is measured in diameter - not radius. O-72 = 72" diameter. And, different companies measure from different points - Ross O64 = Gargraves O63. Also, some newer track systems use solid rails and others have built-in roadbed. You're also not limited to fixed diameter track - you can buy flex track, and/or mix diameters to create a custom curve. There's ample choices nowadays whereas in olden times most people just used Lionel tubular (even though Gargraves has been around since...
O-scale takes up a LOT of space for things like freight yards and roundhouses. Since you have experience with N-scale, I suggest translating your space into the N-scale equivalent and seeing whether you would be happy with the resulting N-scale layout. Just divide the dimensions by 3.33, so your space that is 6 feet wide at one end, 10 feet wide at the other and 23 feet long translates to an N-scale layout that is 1 foot 10 inches at one end, 3 feet at the other end and 6 feet 11 inches long.
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