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Train cars

TrainFam ·
Hi everyone, trainfam here for Christmas I received a Lionel mfg era 38 engine painted in black, with red window trim and red trim on the base of the shell. Here’s a photo: The reason I’m posting is because I’m going to search for the cars to make it a set again. Again it’s a mfg era 38, my guess is it was made from 1916 to 1917 I am not sure if it came with freight or passenger cars ether, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks, trainfam
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Fran McM ·
Hi Trainfam, I have a passenger set with a #38 loco, “Mfg. Co”, vents in end doors, pedestal headlight... c. 1916-17. Maroon with gold window trim. The passenger set was Catalog Outfit #40, and included (2) #35 Pullman coaches, and (1) #36 Observation car. My cars are also maroon, to match the loco. There was also a cataloged freight set with a #38 loco. I would have to look up the specific cars. I do not know if the black loco suggests that would have belonged with a freight set... I am not...
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TrainFam ·
Thanks for the help Fran. Is it possible that the black 38 was a separate sell that sold with no cars? Trainfam
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Fran McM ·
Short answer, yes. David Doyle’s “Standard Catalog of Lionel Trains, 1900-1942”, reproduces a Lionel catalog page from 1917. It lists the following outfits with a #38 electric locomotive: “No. 38 ...outfit includes 8 sections of curved track, making a circle 3-1/2 ft. In diameter. Has electric headlight. Reversing controller and connection for lighting interior of cars. Price $12.00” ”Electric freight train outfit No. 39. Comprises No. 38 locomotive, 1 No. 116 coal car, 1 No. 117 caboose,...
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Fran McM ·
Both the freight and passenger cars from the same period as your loco would ride on black 100-series trucks ( no journal boxes ), and would probably have hook couplers with the little “ears” at the bottom of the tab.
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Fran McM ·
In addition to the passenger coaches, there were also the following: No. 31 Combine (1921-25) No. 32 Mail Car (1921-25)
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Fran McM ·
Trainfam - could you share pictures of the ends of your black 38 ? Thanks, Fran McM.
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TrainFam ·
Hi Fran, sorry for the late response. Here’s the picture’s: Trainfam
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TrainFam ·
Also, the 38 features a strap headlight. Not pedestal headlights like yours and most 38’s, I find this strange as it seems as if strap headlights were mainly featured on corporate era 38’s. Unless my 38 is from the tail end of mfg era? But there’s also the chance of my headlamp being replaced (it is much clearer compared to the rest of the finials). And the paint is a little rough around the tabs.... take a look:
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Fran McM ·
Trainfam- Thanks for the additional photos! Do you know anything of the history of this engine? It seems both the headlight and whistle on your black 38 are brighter / newer than the rest of the nickel trim on the unit. The strap headlight is supposed to be “later”; most of the 38’s I see on e-Bay and in the train books seem to have the strap headlight. That said, the strap headlight is secured to the shell by tabs & slots, which would be difficult to add as a field or DIY change. Also,...
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Odenville Bill ·
Trainfam, Black is my favorite color. That is a sharp engine. I have a 1928 version of the #252 in olive green. I'm seeking something from the 'teens. Bill
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TrainFam ·
Thank you for the info Fran. I will leave the name of the post alone so it is easier for you to find the post. Unfortunately, I do not know the history of this engine. It was purchased on eBay, most likely not from the original owner or any family members of the original owner of the 38. So I really don’t know any history of it. I feel as if I have seen one of these engines with the thumb nut before?.... (however it could have possibly been a 38 in a different color, or not even a 38 at all)...
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TrainFam ·
Additionally, it appears someone drilled holes on the back of the shell. Possibly to customize the shell and put a number 5’s cow catcher (which had the screw holes in it around the same area as these holes are drilled. Take a look:
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Fran McM ·
I think your engine has "had some work done" during its life... Looks like the wiring was replaced... (not uncommon). According to a wiring diagram I have seen based on a hobbyist's #42 on tinplate times, the wire from the lighting post may have been run from the headlight, or perhaps a dedicated run to the same terminal on the reversing switch. The sliding shoe pick-up is proper, and the "Manufacturing Co." stamping on the reversing switch agrees with the brass plates on the end-doors. I...
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TrainFam ·
When it comes to cleaning or polishing the nickel plated pieces on the 38, I think I would rather leave this piece alone. It seems to run well enough also, but if it comes down to the dirt on the nickel plated parts risking its mobility I would be willing to clean it. But for now I think I will leave it alone. Trainfam
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