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Atlas Milw Rd FM erie built diesel

Purplepapa ·
I would like to find a Milwaukee Road Erie built FM diesel , 2rail, A and or AB, ABA or what have you.Prefer Olympian Hiawatha scheme. Purplepapa
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Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
I just finished installing a scale coupler and fix pilot on my Atlas O Erie Built. Yesterday I put on the included pilot as it came with the cover over the coupler hole, but I realized it stuck out way too far, and we run them in freight service so it shouldn't be on there anyway. Today my dad ran up to the hobby store and got a pack of Kadees to put on it. I removed the screw that holds the cover onto the pilot. I then built up the mounting pad with three sheets of styrene, not sure how...
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

rtr12 ·
Nice job, looks good!
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
Looks much better. Go a step further by cutting the trip pin off and add a nice air hose with glad hand to the pilot.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
That's the plan! Where is the best place could I order one? I was just going to look at the exploded parts diagram of my new ES44s and order one from Lionel, but I am sure there are better ones out there.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
I usually grab one from my parts bin. When I convert cars to Kadees I save all those air hoses. I like the MTH air hoses because they are much thinner and have a nicer glad hand than the Atlas part. I also use PSC air hoses and glad hands with real rubber hose... but usually its the MTH air hose.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
Thanks for the information. You have a part number for the MTH ones?
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

CentralFan1976 ·
Awesome! Since my Erie-built was a cob job, I had to fab the Kadee shim for the rear of my unit, but luckily the donor had sent me the 2-rail pilot with the coupler cover door.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
No I dont have an MTH part #. Whatever air hose they put on all the trucks for their 3 rail cars. It just pops off the truck, and then I cut the mount off.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
Uh oh, looks like they did use the covers in freight service! Oh well, I still like the look of the knuckle better. I'll think about it...
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Norm Charbonneau ·
Good job! I like those engines. I had them in NYC but sold them off a few years ago. Wouldn't mind finding the PRR ones someday.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Norm Charbonneau ·
I think the exposed coupler looks way better! That cover is too bulky looking, real or model..
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

CentralFan1976 ·
I'm looking for a coupler cover, if you'd like to shed yours! ��
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
I agree, the thing would've stuck out two feet if it were real...
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Keystoned Ed ·
Most of the first generation PRR road diesels were initially fitted with coupler covers to minimize issues when colliding with vehicles. Around the 1954/5 time frame they began to be removed as the units were shopped. I agree that the coupler covers on the FM diesels are particularly clunky looking. That's a good looking railroad Steven Michael, you are very fortunate to have a true SPF for a Dad and mentor. Ed Rappe
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KRL 304 Type FM heavy duty 12-axle flatcar

pro hobby ·
KRL 304 Type FM heavy duty 12-axle flatcar The KRL 304 is a 12-axle flatcar that was originally owned by Westinghouse (road number WECX 304). It uses 4 pair of Buckeye style 3-axle trucks. The overall car length is 70 feet 7 inches. Capacity is 740,000 pounds. Prototype Specifications: Light Weight 203,000 lbs. Load Limit 740,000 lbs. Number of axles (33" wheels) 12 Load Platform Length 45' Load Platform Height 52" Car Length 70' 7"
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Modeling the KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

pro hobby ·
Modeling the KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail) This O scale model is a 12-axle flatcar which is based on the KRL 304. The KRL prototype is used for extra heavy duty loads. The model has a 11-1/4 inch platform length and an overall length of 17 inches. A special feature of the model is the use of articulated truck bolsters which allow the car to operate on small radius curves. Because each truck is allowed to shift side to side the car can operate more...
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Re: Modeling the KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

pro hobby ·
KRL 304, 305 Prototype railcar diagram.
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Re: Modeling the KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

prrhorseshoecurve ·
Similar design to the prr hd version!��
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Modeling a 96 Foot Long Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

pro hobby ·
Modeling a 96 Foot Long Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail) This O scale model is a 12-axle 96 scale foot long flatcar with an extra heavy duty under frame. It is similar to the KRL 304 flatcar. However the platform length on the model was increased to 17-1/2 inches (70 scale feet). Overall length of the model is 24 inches. The model uses 4 pair of RailKing 3-axle style trucks. Note: Brake draft gear has been relocated from the end of the car to the underside of the...
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Modeling a Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar with 56 foot platform in O scale (three rail)

pro hobby ·
Modeling a Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail) similar to KRL 304. This O scale model is a 12-axle 80 foot flatcar with an extra heavy duty under frame. It is modeled after the KRL 304 flatcar. However the platform length on the model was increased to 14 inches (56 scale feet). A special feature is the use of articulated truck bolsters which allow the car to operate on small radius curves. Because each truck is allowed to shift side to side the car can operate more...
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Re: Modeling a 96 Foot Long Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

pro hobby ·
Here is a photo of the underside of the flatcar deck. Since this is intended as an "operating" O scale model the details shown on the underside are very basic. No attempt has been made to replicate air brake piping.
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Re: Modeling a 96 Foot Long Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

t8afao ·
Nice work, looks great. Any photos of the underbody of the car. Thanks for sharing. Nick T
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Re: Modeling a 96 Foot Long Type FM Heavy Duty 12-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

t8afao ·
Thanks, nice work. I could see how to much detail would interfere with operations of the trucks. Will you paint it for Westinghouse or is the color final. Once again you did a great job on this. Nick T
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Re: Modeling a KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 10-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

Tiffany ·
Hello PRO HOBBY...... Was there such an model of Pennsy's ultra heavy duty flat car that uses 4 eight wheel trucks. The trucks were from the 16 wheel tenders used on Q-2,Q-1, S-2, S-1, J-1a and some I1sa steamers. I could not find much information on this depressed flatcar but saw the photo of it that was place in park. I don't know where the photo was taken and or where I saw that picture ? Would you happen to know the specs of that flat car ? Tiffany
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Re: Modeling a KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 10-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

pro hobby ·
Here are model photos of the original 12-axle version of the KRL 304 model and the modified 10-axle version for comparison. The deck is identical for each car. However the truck bolsters are not the same for each car due to truck spacing variations.
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Re: Modeling a KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 10-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

grfd59 ·
Tiffany, That would be the Queen Mary and it is located at the Railroaders Museum of Pennsylvania in Altoona. If you Google Rob's Pennsy Page he should have a drawing there. Gene Anstine
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Re: Modeling a KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 10-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

prrhorseshoecurve ·
Originally posted by GRFD59: That would be the Queen Mary and it is located at the Railroaders Museum of Pennsylvania in Altoona I thought the "Queen Mary" was an Observation car now part of some office structure in Wayne, NJ.? Anyway, in an answer to the second poster's question, there were two prr flats with those massive trucks:
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Re: Modeling a Type FM Heavy Duty 8-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail) with 70 foot deck

pro hobby ·
Here is another model of an 8-axle heavy duty flatcar with a 56 foot long deck. The model uses 4 pair of RailKing 2-axle Rollerbearing style sprung trucks.
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Modeling a KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 10-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail)

pro hobby ·
Modeling a KRL 304 Type FM Heavy Duty 10-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail) This O scale model is a 10-axle flatcar which is based on the KRL 304. This model is identical to the prototype KRL 304 except it has been modified to create a 10-axle version. Otherwise the overall dimensions of the model are identical to the 12-axle version. MTH 2-axle and 3-axle trucks were used on the model. This model has a 11-1/4 inch platform length and an overall length of 17 inches. A special feature of...
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Re: Modeling a Type FM Heavy Duty 8-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail) with 70 foot deck

pro hobby ·
Here is another model of an 8-axle heavy duty flatcar with a 45 foot long deck. This model is very similar to the 12-axle KRL 304 prototype flatcar. Overall length of the model is 15-1/8 inches. The model uses 4 pair of RailKing 2-axle Rollerbearing style sprung trucks. Prototype KRL 304 12-axle flat car shown. Here is a KRL 304 12-axle O scale model for comparison. This model has a 11-1/4 inch (45 scale feet) platform length and an overall length of 17 inches. The model uses RailKing 3-axle...
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Modeling a Type FM Heavy Duty 8-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail) with 70 foot deck

pro hobby ·
Modeling a Type FM Heavy Duty 8-axle flatcar in O scale (three rail) with 70 foot deck This O scale model is a 8-axle flatcar with an extra heavy duty under frame. The platform length on the model is 17-1/2 inches (70 scale feet). Overall length of the model is 21-3/4 inches. The model uses 4 pair of RailKing 2-axle Rollerbearing style sprung trucks. Note: Brake draft gear has been located to the underside of the model. A special feature is the use of articulated truck bolsters which allow...
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Re: MTH Dealer Appreciation release 20-80001

pro hobby ·
Here is the latest MTH Premier version: 20-20128-1
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MTH Dealer Appreciation release 20-80001

pro hobby ·
MTH Dealer Appreciation release 20-80001 MTH produced a clone of Lionel DLW Train Master in 1999. It was part of a Dealer Appreciation release 20-80001. It includes PS-1 electronics. It is virtually identical to the Lionel postwar model 2321. The MTH engine was built in Korea (Samhongsa?). Note the paint scheme on the MTH model. Looking for photos of the prototype Lackawanna engine with this particular paint scheme. MTH has since produced both updated Premier and RailKing versions of this...
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prrhorseshoecurve ·
Those Scale Premier MTH FM TM's are "the BOMB"! The details are SPOT on!
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Re: K-Line FMs Question

Dan Padova ·
Without having seen one, my suspicion is that the pivot point of the trucks are slightly different from Lionel's version. On O31 curves, the Lionel trucks swing quite wide. It does look a bit awkward.
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K-Line FMs Question

Dan Padova ·
I see that the K-Line Fairbanks Morse Trainmasters have the blind driving wheel in the center, as opposed to being at the inner end of the motorized trucks. They are still able to negotiate O31 curves, according to what I read. I'm curious as to how K-Line was able to do this.
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bob2 ·
I think the answer is straight-up geometry. All you need is to make sure the blind driver does not catch a rail by its edge. But the locomotive itself would look stupid on 16" radius track. It needs 0-120 to look right. Opinion.
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Re: K-Line FMs Question

brwebster ·
Pivot points remain roughly in the same location whether it be K-Line, Lionel or William's. Placement of the blind driver mid truck doesn't restrict the swing or the ability to negotiate 031 curves. The inherent lateral free play in tinplate type wheel sets prevents binding on flanges. The same geometry allows steam locos with 6 or 8 drivers to traverse the same tight curves, as long as the middle drivers are blind. LionMaster articulated engines can handle 031 for the same reason and look...
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Re: K-Line FMs Question

D500 ·
"I'm curious as to how K-Line was able to do this." Williams Alco PA and E-7 diesels also have a proper center-blind model truck design (rather than the awful end-blind design). The end-blind design allows a manufacturer to add 3-axle trucks to a frame without changing the pivot-point and maybe other factors used by the 2-axle ("B" truck) design. The end-blind 3-axle type is actually a 2-axle truck with an awkward decoration sticking out of it.
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Re: K-Line FMs Question

prrhorseshoecurve ·
The other item to mention about those K-Line Fm tm's is they are equipped with 6 axle drive! Those units are stump pullers!
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scott.smith ·
I was less than thrilled with my K-line Virginian Trainmaster. The first one they sent me all the screwpost were broken. I asked them to replace it. They sent me one with the paint scraped off. "That's all we have." I sold it. Scott Smith
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dPrasse ·
So , I need a pair of those K-Line TMs , too , eh ?
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Dan Padova ·
I wound up buying one late last year. It is beautiful and has smoke and horn !
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Re: K-Line FMs Question

dPrasse ·
I remember your two shortened “Baby” units ... CNW ... pretty ... so , easy to convert to 2 rail ? I’m starting to get the idea I need to 2 rail my FM collection ... hehehe
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Re: K-Line FMs Question

bob2 ·
I have 2- railed five of them, and I really have no love at all for plastic trains. These things are stunningly detailed and easy to convert. Flanges on all axles, just like God intended. Two of them were shortened to become CNW "baby" Train Masters.
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dPrasse ·
http://www.legacykline.com/app...ml?useraction=search
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Re: K-Line FMs Question

Dan Padova ·
I just tried running my K-Line Train Master on my layout. It fouls on two places where my Lionel does not. Not by much but enough to limit running it to the outside loop. I suspect the slight difference in pivot points combined with the blind wheel location makes the body swing ever so slightly more than it's Lionel cousin.
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