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Lionel engines for sale.. They are test run only

Al Galli ·
I have the following engines for sale. They are essentially new, having been test run only, 8851 NH F3 AA $175 8157 SF FM Train Master $165 18301 Southern FM Train Master $165 8056 C& NW FM Train Master $165 Shipping extra at actual cost. Thanks for looking Al Galli
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Re: GRJ, GGG, Marty, and others - Lionel FM Train Master Century Club II questions, help, info

Marty Fitzhenry ·
Do the following. After programming the engines to the TMCC ID you want. Do the restore feature setting. That is engine # then AUX-1 then the number 8. This is done in the program mode. After entering number 8, slide your program switch back to run. I have worked on a good number of these engines in the past years. They are good runners. Many get sold (dumped) because of erratic running. I found the Achille's heel that causes that. Near the bottom of the smoke unit is a board that has plugs...
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GRJ, GGG, Marty, and others - Lionel FM Train Master Century Club II questions, help, info

Sparky74 ·
I just received a new never opened set of the Lionel 6-18340 FM Train Master (Thanks Hot Water LOL) AA engines. Other than checking grease on gears and lubing the wheels and axles what else should be done to a new but has been sitting for so long set? This is the first locomotive set I've received new with this much age on it before initial use. Both units run great but not all 4 radiator fans run. I have not opened these babies up, ( removed shells) and they will be one of my more prized...
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Re: GRJ, GGG, Marty, and others - Lionel FM Train Master Century Club II questions, help, info

Marty Fitzhenry ·
One last item. If you are inside, pull and reseat all your modular boards. You have a find.
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Seeking info about CLW H16-44 drawing of B-B Trucks Assembly...

Questor ·
I started to build my CLW Fairbanks Morse H16-44 Kit and realized I am missing a single mechanical drawing page of the FM B-B Trucks. However, I seem to have all of the other CLW H16-44 Frame/Hood Build Instructions and the general Direct Drive Chassis Instructions for Assembly pages... Does anyone have this missing mechanical drawing page of the FM H16-44 B-B Trucks they could email me or else know where I could download this? The FM Trucks parts assembly seems odd and I want to be sure I...
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Re: Seeking info about CLW H16-44 drawing of B-B Trucks Assembly...

Questor ·
Here is my 2nd attempt at posting pics - now as attachments... Apparently PdF files will not convert for this website and cant be posted as Attachments, while large JPG pics can't be inserted in messages ! Please note the FM H16-44 Trucks I have are B-B an not ALCO Tri-Mount nor Baldwin Trucks. The slight problem I have is the Front Retainer Bar has to be soldered or attached by screws to backside of each Truck's sideframe shown in pic1. I will try to use WIX solder if this is the best way...
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Re: Seeking info about CLW H16-44 drawing of B-B Trucks Assembly...

prrjim ·
Hmm that is a very interesting kit. I'm glad to see it. Thanks.
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Re: Seeking info about CLW H16-44 drawing of B-B Trucks Assembly...

Marty Milner ·
i believe your kit is a locomotive workshop rather than a central locomotive kit. Bob Smith (CLW) always used brass castings while Jan Lorenzen (LWS) used Britannia castings as he called his white metal castings. His etching were a lighter brass than CLW. It looks like a nice kit and should build a neat loco.
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Re: Seeking info about CLW H16-44 drawing of B-B Trucks Assembly...

prrjim ·
CLW H16-44? I have not seen this kit. Could you post some photos? I have seen an early H-20-44 kit with cast body.
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Re: Seeking info about CLW H16-44 drawing of B-B Trucks Assembly...

Jay C ·
I was thinking of emailing you info on contacting the owner of CLW but your email address isn't listed with your profile. If you email me (my email is listed) I will send you his contact info. Jay
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Re: Seeking info about CLW H16-44 drawing of B-B Trucks Assembly...

Questor ·
Here are the pics PRRJIM requested... Caption Caption Caption Caption
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Re: Seeking info about CLW H16-44 drawing of B-B Trucks Assembly...

bob2 ·
I can be of no help - I never follow model instructions. But I believe CLW did both the 16-44 and the 20-44. Not positive. Here is a cast 16-66 that may or may not have all its wheels on the track:
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Questor ·
I forgot to add that CLW also made an EMD GP-30...
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Jay C ·
Nope, he's still there. He's geared mostly to building the models and selling them RTR. Selling kits isn't worth it anymore. At least that's the impression he gave me. Jay
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Questor ·
Hi PRRJIM, Yes, CLW did make an RS-3 Chassis Kit. Here is a pic of a CLW F-7... ... Here is the box for an H16-44 Chassis (unconfirmed)... Regards, Steve
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

AGHRMatt ·
I think Lou shut down the business some time ago. Don't recall him selling it off.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Keystoned Ed ·
I understand CLW's last diesel kit was to be of a Baldwin 2000 HP DT-6-6-2000 center cab transfer unit like the ones owned by the EJ&E. A pilot model was built by Bernie Gallagher for Bob Smith but I believe Bob passed away before the kit went into full production. Has anyone seen a CLW transfer diesel - kit or built-up? Bernie was the chief mechanical officer on the restored Dover Harbor Pullman owned by the DC Chapter of the NRHS as well as a talented DC area O scaler. He had a close...
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

PRRMP54 ·
The GP30 body was imported by NJ Custom Brass and had a CLW drive installed.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Jay C ·
"Has anyone seen a CLW transfer diesel kit or built-up.?" Yes, CLW did a few. Jay
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

railroad-guy ·
I am not allowed to link here but The O Scale Resource january-february-2016 issue page 58 has a picture of one built by Bruce Morally and now owned by Frank McCabe of the Rockford O Scalers.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

bob2 ·
Two vastly different PAs were produced. The earlier sand-cast was far more accurate. Apparently an all sand-cast center cab was produced, and a brass/bronze cast NW-2.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

prrjim ·
I have never heard of CLW putting kits together for other companies. I also don't think they bought/acquired the Kemtron line. P&D Hobbies ended up with the RS3 kit and parts from Kemtron. I have heard of lots of drive kits and/or parts. They were a primary source for building up a nice drive for a diesel for years along with All Nation. the GPs I have seen are the GP35 and GP40. I think they also did the SD-40. Not sure about the GP38 but it makes sense. I have never personally seen a...
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

big train ·
I know CLW did the sd40-2, at least one tunnel motor, and the sd45-2. I dont believe they did anything after the sd45-2, meaning the sd50 and onward. I also dont know if they did the the sd38-2. It would have made sense, given the number of parts that are shared with the sd40-2. Jim
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Carey Williams ·
Hello all ... Bob Smith / Central Locomotive Works .... involved with many many locomotive projects ... here are a few The EMD E7 The cast PA's ... the later ones are all different ...( not as nice in my opinion) The Berkshire ...which was a Lenoir / Hines piece...which Hines failed to pay Adam and Son for ...so it went to Bob Smith ... You like the GMC GM switcher ??? that was Bob's also ..a few of the cast brass versions are out there ..not many before the project went to GMC As Bob...
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

john handlogten ·
Attached are two pictures of the center cabs that Bruce Morrall built and now owned by Frank McCabe as mentioned by Dan Dawdy. Unfortunately Bruce passed away on October 22. Frank also has a CLW Pennsy center cab that has a lot of extra detail added to it but I'm not sure where it is at the moment.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

bob2 ·
Those are neat! And I do not care for the big transfer Diesel. The orange and green is striking! I take it both are the etched versions with lost wax trucks?
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

bob2 ·
Is it an optical illusion, or do the hoods actually gain some height as they go from cab to end?
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Keystoned Ed ·
Thanks for posting the EJ&E photos John. The word "rare" is at times misapplied to O scale 2 rail models (especially on eBay) - it is apropos for a CLW Baldwin transfer diesel. I believe the only other commercially made transfer diesel in O scale were the Lima-Hamilton ones done by MTH.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Billsrr ·
I have built and three railed aF3, a GP 35 and a Kemtron Rs 3.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Frank McCabe ·
Hi All, Here are some photos of our other CLW Center Cab which is a Pennsylvania unit. We are not sure who the builder was but it is finished with a high degree of detail for a CLW kit. And, of course the CLW mechanism is bulletproof and it runs well. So, The Rockford O Scalers are very pleased to have three of these CLW Center Cab models on the layout.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Frank McCabe ·
Regarding the Center Cabs, the EJ&E mainline ran behind my grade school in Park Forest, IL and I was fascinated by these locomotives which I saw every day. When I heard CLW was going to make a kit, I knew I had to have one. As mentioned above, Bruce Morrall built the kit and I had it custom painted in the orange and green “football” scheme. We also had an EJ&E caboose custom built by Malcolm Byrd to run with the Center Cab. So, now I am reliving my youth!
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

prrhorseshoecurve ·
I would love to get a kit like that and throw an MTH 3 rail drive into it. It's definitely different than the MTH Lima unit.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

bob2 ·
Same optical illusion. I put a straightedge on the photo, so either the locomotive is supposed to be swaybacked, or Smith made a mistake. I have some prototype photos in a Stauffer book somewhere.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Frank McCabe ·
BTW, EMD re-engined some of the EJ&E Center Cabs and as a result the new locomotive hoods sloped up toward the cab and overhung the walkways. The CLW model is a stock Baldwin unit as delivered which has the original straight hood. Here is a prototype photo of an EJ&E unit in its original configuration.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Frank McCabe ·
The Rockford O Scalers have a number of other CLW locomotives on the layout including EMD E8s, SD40, GP30 and Alco PAs. Here are some pictures of the SD40 and GP30.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

thebeaune ·
By us we have two Santa Fe Centercab at the clublayout. Also I have asket CLW for an Specialkit to build an BN SD40-2B. The BN SD40-2 is kitbash from an CLW Kit.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

bob2 ·
I agree. CLW did very nice kits. It takes real skill to get them as nice looking as the above models.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Questor ·
Hi Bob, Did CLW manufacture complete F-3A/B Brass Kits and/or did CLW make a Motorized Chassis Kit that adapted for use with other OEM F-3A/B Kits such as Adams & Son, Kemtron, US Hobbies, All-Nation, LWS, or KTM? I have noticed that CLW sometimes made specific Motorized Chassis Kits for some of these companies' brass models. For example, Kemtron Alco RS-3, Adams & Son cast F-3A/B, Adams & Son H16-44, etc... Early model CLW Motorized Chassis Kits seem to have cast brass casings...
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Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Questor ·
Which Brass O-Scale 2-Rail Diesel Locomotive Kits were manufactured by the former "Central Locomotive Works" (CLW) company? Google has limited current search results and past Internet listings to favor companies that pay Google a monthly advertising fee. This Google profit motive (no pun intended) results in a loss of information and history about O-Scale Brass model kits from companies that are no longer in business.With passing generations of modelers it seems hobby magazines may have...
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

ecd15 ·
You can add F3a and F3b along with the F7a and b.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Frank McCabe ·
Here are a few more Center Cab photos. Regarding the earlier question of the hood contour, they look flat to me.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Frank McCabe ·
Apparently there was a GP-40 kit also. Here is a picture of some of Bruce Morrall’s kits, including the GP-40.
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Questor ·
Thanks to all people sending in pics/info about additional CLW Brass Kits such as EMD GP-30, EMD SD40-2, EMD SD40-T2 and Baldwin DT-6-6-2000... Can anyone post pics of a CLW H20-44/H16-44/H15-55 with matching CLW Box or a CLW H12-44/H10-44 with the matching CLW Box? Are there any other Brass Diesel Locomotive Kits that were cast by CLW which have not yet been mentioned?
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Carey Williams ·
Hello all ..below you'll find a Central Locomotive Works listing of available kits on their letter head from 1950 , PA and Baldwin listings from Carmen Webster's 1950 catalog ...and chassis and PA's available in 1962 found in the 1962 Box Car Ken catalog. Anybody know about the NYC H10B listed in the 1950 price list by CLW? who's was it ? The Limb Berk is the one I posted before. Note the Saginaw items are not available at this time ... I have a later letter that states just the H10 will be...
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Questor ·
Hi Frank, I own a later production CLW Kit that could be adapted to a GP38/GP38-2/GP40/GP40-2 with the included parts and depending on the CLW Blomberg type of Trucks obtained. I wonder if they made an earlier GP-40 Kit as shown in your posted pic and a later "generic" EMD GP kit that could be adapted to different GP-38/40 model types... Regards, Steve
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

Questor ·
Did CLW make a Brass Kit for an Baldwin Diesel Locomotive other than a DT-6-6-2000? I seem to remember seeing a CLW Baldwin DS-4-4-10 or AS-616 Roadswitcher at one time... Regards, Steve
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Re: Central Locomotive Works (CLW) + List of O-Scale Diesel Models Kits they manufactured?

bob2 ·
Neat! I think the NYC Mike got only to the parts stage. You could buy a few lost wax parts for it until Smith gave up. What is surprising is you could buy the all cast PA at the same time the etched version became available. Frank, I agree. A straightedge on those fine photos shows dead straight. Must have been lens distortion.
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