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Re: Old Lionel Boxes

rtraincollector ·
I agree make repairs but if you can do it from the inside of the box not the outside
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Jagrick ·
condition determines value for most part, rarity of number the other. Repaired/damaged boxes unless a rare item are low in value
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Steamer ·
and sometimes the sales stickers and other markings can add to the story of the item. If you are considering tossing any, put them on the for sale forum here first.
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Pingman ·
John, go ahead and make the box repairs--your locomotives, etc. will have more value with a repaired original box than if it is sold without a box. As noted above, a repaired box on its own may not hold much value.
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J Daddy ·
I would avoid using tape. Best to leave the flaps unglued and lay them flat to avoid more damage.
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Rescued Trains ·
J DADDY is correct, do not tape boxes, probably has more value in the "as is" condition.
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MattR ·
I tape them with high quality clear packing tape. They come good. Better than a box you have to put in a bag or envelope because of all the pieces. My thoughts anyhow.
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wb47 ·
Given the fact though that most of the old stuff does not go for much anymore, why struggle with boxes that are falling apart. My vote is to throw or tape.
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eddie g ·
I would never tape the boxes together. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
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ADCX Rob ·
Here is an alternate fact .
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George S ·
Correct. Tape will eventually ruin your boxes even if you can get it to look good at first, which is very difficult. I have repaired boxes with high quality wood glue used sparingly. I then clamp it or press it until dry enough to hold. I also read a thread somewhere discussing box repair. There are some very sofisticated approaches to torn box repair as well. Water damage is one of the hardest problems to solve. BTW, I do like to keep boxes and I do value boxed items more. However, I don't...
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El Classico ·
Glue and card stock on the inside tend to do well.
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wb47 ·
Now show me one with a dump car or a 3 lid tank car or a hopper car please. The man was not talking about the rare items. He has an old set out of the attic.
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George S ·
Why would you ruin them with tape in any case? If you are going to take the time to do something, do it right. As tape ages, it will discolor and lose it's adhesion. I have seen it many times. By that time, the finish of the box is destroyed. If you want to keep the boxes and keep them nice, don't use tape. George
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TomlinsonRunRR ·
I can't speak to the collecting value of taped boxes one way or another but from an archival point of view, I can see two safe options. One is to use acid free "scotch" tape. Most stores commonly sell this now because of its safe use for photo albums (remember those from pre-phone camera days? :-). It shouldn't crack or yellow. The second option would be to use archival mending tape, which you can find in art stores. It is much weaker and more like rice paper but if you just want to shore up...
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C W Burfle ·
Now show me one with a dump car or a 3 lid tank car or a hopper car please. The man was not talking about the rare items. He has an old set out of the attic. How do you know? I reread the original post. The poster didn't say what he had.
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C W Burfle ·
IMHO, putting tape on the outside of a postwar box pretty much reduces the value to zero. Then again, I don't think a tattered box has much value anyway, unless it is a very rare one, with contents. Many 1960's pieces were normally sold in sets where the pieces did not have individual boxes. Sometimes boxed examples of those pieces will bring a significant premium. But I am not taking big bucks in any case.
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Jeff Noll ·
I use book binding repair tape. It will last forever and sticks to the tagboard Lionel boxes are made of. Scotch tape is temporary at best.
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Popi ·
duct tape, "if it aint broke, you aint trin hard enough"
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Popi ·
that brings up another point, what to do with boxes, ive got boxes from pre, post MPC, Williams, MTH, Kline, Marx. Im about ready to send them to the burning barrel
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RailRide ·
Some people want boxes they don't have, some people have boxes they don't want. Why not bring the two together? List what you have in Buy/Sell and see if you get any takers for at least some of them. I imagine somebody out there will take at least some of them off your hands . Eventually. (Personally, I'm looking for a RailKing box that'll fit this caboose , and a MTH Premier box for a 50' boxcar) ---PCJ
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Re: susquehanna lionel tank car FMS on one side of the car lionel MT.Clemens MI. STAMPED ON BOTTOM IN RAISED LETTERS I JUST GOT THIS ANY INFO

NOT LionelLLC ·
I'm pretty sure this is one of the many Mel Price repaints. When the Lionel 17900 Santa Fe and the 17901 Chevron unibody tank cars were issued, Mel had some of them repainted into other paint schemes. This is likely one of them. Stu
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Re: Lionel starter set from MENARDs

Jeff B. Haertlein ·
Thanks for the insights. Actually my friend that has this set, decided to open up the engine. He found out that it appeared to be opened up before (?), but regardless he found that the plunger was stuck, and took care of that sticky problem, and the engine is now smoking great! He was very happy!
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Re: susquehanna lionel tank car FMS on one side of the car lionel MT.Clemens MI. STAMPED ON BOTTOM IN RAISED LETTERS I JUST GOT THIS ANY INFO

techman ·
Stu i think you are correct , the box it came in was a chevron tank car 6-17901, the paint job looks factory done , i got it for 23.00 bucks , i bought it to go with the meta box car of the same color, came on it by chance . thanks for the info techman
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Re: Lionel starter set from MENARDs

SantaFeJim ·
Add Fluid?
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Jeff B. Haertlein ·
Yup!
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JohnGaltLine ·
If you have an Ohm meter, and know how to use it, you could open the engine up and place the meter across the smoke element. It should read about 18 ohms if it is good..If I recall correctly. You could also look to make sure the plug for the smoke is fully seated in the board, and that no wires are broken. On the smoke one wire, probably red, will run from the plug to the smoke unit. the other, probably blue will run from the plug to the smoke switch, then from the switch to the smoke unit.
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TrainGuyMcGee ·
Also, once the smoke feature is activated, it may take up to 2 minutes to get the smoke running. My first engine wouldn't smoke when I turned the smoke on. After a few days, I left the smoke on by accident and went to make a sandwich. When I came back, it was smoking! I guess it takes a couple of minutes to warm up the heating element.
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Adriatic ·
Blow on it? I thought that was for Nintendo game cartridges? Lol Backing off on fluid a bit might help too. Total saturation can cool an element quite a bit. If its a cooler element to start with, that means a longer warm up or even failure to smoke for a few days. I have three steamers that require either a fluid with a fast evaporation rate, or careful top offs to perform.
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JohnGaltLine ·
One other thing, I'm going to assume this is a LionChief set, as that is all I've seen in Menards. If so, are you testing with the engine moving on the track? LionChief engines automatically turn off the smoke unit when the engine is not moving. JGL
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Re: {SOLD} Lionel PA-1 powered front truck assembly

john in western pa ·
please provide email address
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Re: {SOLD} Lionel PA-1 powered front truck assembly

Jack118711 ·
My bad, I thought I did... my profile is updated now. Its jack52096@live.com
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Re: Old Lionel Boxes

Sam Jumper ·
Rod, You have no idea ho scarce the separate sale lumber car box is. IF you ever found this, you shouldn’t care about the condition of the car or if it’s even included.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

WftTrains ·
No, there was never a Lionel post-war 0-6-0 steam switcher CATALOGED nor was there ever a Lionel post-war or pre-war locomotive numbered 656. The number 656 was used on a pre-war O gauge cattle car made from 1935 though 1940 although Lionel occasionally reused a pre-war number on a completely different post-war item. There was a #403 steam switcher shown in the 1946 catalog but this engine was never made. In the image in the catalog (probably an artist's drawing and not a photograph) it is...
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Chessie Steam Fan ·
Ok that's they I figured they never made one. The only 060 Lionel ever made that I was able to find pictures of was the 300 series pre war locomotives. Thanks for the info. I'll look at the forum archives. Any idea on the exact date of that poster?
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

WftTrains ·
You're welcome and I'd say that poster came out in 1946 or 1947.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
Thank you!
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Steamer ·
I'd love to see pics of your engine. I've been thinking of doing a six drivered switcher myself.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
I'll try to send some photos when I get a chance. Basically picture a 1656 with 6 drivers and no Johnson bar.
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WftTrains ·
Update on the posters: I forgot that the posters were listed in the 1990 Greenberg Guide to Lionel Paper book by Osterhoff. Both versions are listed on page 53 if you have that book. No photos, just descriptions and both versions are listed as 1947. Also they are not identified as DEALER posters as I had said earlier. If you don’t have the book the description for the first version says “16½” wide x 10½” high, wall poster, printed on one side in yellow, black, and red ink on white paper,...
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

MNCW ·
Can you post a picture of the switcher? Maybe you have a 201 or a 203 that someone renumbered. Tom
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Chessie Steam Fan ·
It's for sure not pre war, so it's not a 200 series engine.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
I took the screw out.
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Steamer ·
thanks, I like the looks of it.
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Chessie Steam Fan ·
I do to. It's a really nice modification. Very well done.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

TeleDoc ·
That is where someone adapted a 6 wheel motor, and shoehorned it into a 1656 body. Definitely a nice job, and the countersink screw hole is the telltale sign of the modification. Makes for a nice 0-6-0 switcher, to say the least.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Jim Waterman ·
Looks like a 'homemader' to me. A 2035 mechanism squeezed into a 1656 shell where someone erased the 1. Substantial engine, later 2035's had magnetraction, so it could be a real hauler. Very nice. Jim
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
I have not looked to see if it has magnetraction, but it halled my Williams C&O Aluminum Passenger cars like a champ, better than other postwar engines I have ran.
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Frisco Chris 1522 ·
It probably has Magnetration, as the motor plates are aluminum. I've seen this modification done before, but with a nickel-rimmed early 2026 type motor. Nice locomotive.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
Thanks, I really like it.
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