Tagged With "operate"

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California Lionel Club Layouts?

Timmy ·
Are there any Club Layouts in southern California that are aimed at Lionel LEGACY / Operating Accessories? I'd like to join one, but I am not really looking for hi-rail, as I want to run my Culvert an TTUX/Husky Stack trains. This area seems ripe for...
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CGW Flatcar w/ Edelweiss Beer Trailers

The Lionel Operating Train Society (LOTS) is proud to offer a Chicago Great Western (CGW) Flatcar with stunning Edelweiss Beer piggy-back trailers as our 2015 Convention Car.       All OGR Forum Members are encouraged to join LOTS...
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Flint Rock Valley Lines

Flint Rock Valley ·
Howdy Folks... I am Proud to present to You my layout as of yet. It's an 8' x 8' of mostly postwar lionel that has a lot of jam packed action. I still need a few things to get my upper level in working order, & plan on finishing it up soon. Now I want y'all to know that these photos (I took J4U) were merely a staging so I could show you what I have going on here. There's still a lot of work to be done in getting everything wired & in running order. I very much hope you like...
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D.G. Yuengling and Son Double Sheathed Standard O Boxcar

Check out the latest Lionel manufactured, limited edition, standard O double-sheathed boxcar the Lionel Operating Train Society is offering. The deadline to order is approaching the station quickly (March 11). Delivery is expected by mid-November 2016. Join LOTS today https://www.lots-trains.org/html/join_lots_now__.html (yes, you must be a Member of LOTS to order) and order the car ($74 plus S&H) before you miss out! http://www.lots-trains.org/ht…/yuengling_brewery_boxcar.html
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DCS Operation in Conventional Mode

Bob Golfs ·
I must admit to some confusion about this, but my basic question - if i crank the variable TIU input/output to 18 volts, can I operate a PS3 engine as if it were running on the fixed output channel?  In other words, are all of the DCS control functions still available to me?   Thanks, Bob
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Fastrack Operating track and legacy engine anomaly

ToledoEd ·
When I run a legacy engine AC6000 B&O (6-38404) across a Fastrack operating track the engine loses sound. I installed a battery thinking it lost signal but that didn't fix the issue. This engine responds to my sensor track correctly. It is the only engine that responds this way. I've run 2 vision line diesels over the same track, no problem. Actually, this is the only engine that responds like this. It's as if it receives some signal from that track but that can't be, can it? Any...
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FasTrack - Bumper for Handcar

JustLuckey ·
I purchased an MTH PRR Operating Handcar (seen here: http://www.mthtrains.com/content/30-2574 ) and I (and my 2 year old son) love it.  We've only been using it on the loops we've built and occasionally will use our finger as a bumper...
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HELP QSI or QS1 Operators Manual

Basil ·
Does anyone have a physical or digital copy of the QSI or QS1 operator's manual?  I have figured out quite a bit from the publicly available QS2+ manual, but I have yet to figure out how to operate the front electric coupler.  Any help would be appreciated.
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Help Finding Weaver EMD 40-2 Operating Manual

Basil ·
I recently picked up a beautiful Weaver 1320LP Soo Line EMD 40-2.  This is my first model locomotive.  I bought it used and, naturally, it didn't come with the operating manual.  I've searched online using Google, but no luck in locating a manual.  Does anyone have a manual they could share or sell?  I'm also open to any suggestions to assist in finding one.  I want to use this beauty to it's full capacity and maintain it properly and fear I cannot do either...
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help getting started in operating sessions with friends any advice ?

Homedad40 ·
I wish to start hosting operating sessions once my railroad is completed , I am new to the "operating" aspect of prototypical operation and it looks like a ton of fun and very addicting too , my layout will have a dispatch area , a...
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k Line Milk Car not operating - Help!

paul4653 ·
Purchased new K line milk car (accessory) about a year ago. Just tried to install into track layout. Does not work and need any suggestions (if anyone has had success) on how to get this fun accessory to work. Thank you.
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Layout for Operating Accessories

Dan Padova ·
As I start to place some ideas down on paper as to how I would like my new layout to look, I'd like to ask your opinions of what you believe a layout that focuses on operating accessories should look like. Let me say that I will have a double track mainline, probably raised on trestles and higher grades, to run fast passenger trains. The accessories will be on the main level and should be readily accessible. I have 18' x 12' to work with. My first thoughts are to operate from the center of...
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

JohnGaltLine ·
Moonman, Everything you've said makes sense and is how one would expect things to work, It is exactly what I would say had I not stuck a meter on mine, or tore it apart to see what's inside it... but it is not how the Z1000 actually works. The Z1000, and associated Z-Controller, is a very strange transformer. Here is what the switch would see connected to the hot of the accessory post, with common from the track: Here is the Z controller common connected to the Accessory common with a volt...
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

PLCProf ·
I dunno, mine works correctly, black binding post is common to the common terminal on the brick, as would be expected.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

JohnGaltLine ·
The plot thickens... Do I have one that is wired wrong? Was a change made at some point in production? I have to admit that the way my Z1000 and Z-controller work make no sense, but having only the one to test I assumed they would all be the same. Edit: Also, I've taken mine apart and there does not appear to be anything that was fiddled with or changed after the unit was built. JGL
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
Carl, if I understand you correctly, the positive accessory terminal on the Z-1000 brick gets connected to the fixed voltage plug on the switch track. If so, this would be the same way, in a sense, that using a KW for example, would be wired for fixed voltage to the turnouts.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Moonman ·
Dan, The Z-1000 is a strange beast without the controller. It is my experience that the track outputs are reversed in the barrel connector, which gets "corrected" when plugged into the Z-controller or a TIU. I don't have any to put up now, they are 75 miles away at the Eagle Scout project at the InfoAge Science Museum. We have a brick with the connector cut-off, which was wired to a programming track originally. When I attempted to use to track power outputs, I discovered the reversal issue.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

mike g. ·
Morning Carl, your up early.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Moonman ·
You are up 3 hours earlier than me. I am usually an early starter. Been spending the days on projects away from the computer.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

mike g. ·
Ever since my Latest Chemo treatment started I only get about4 -5 hours of sleep. Dog wakes me up to go out then there is o no getting back to sleep. LOL
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
Anyone have a clue ? I'm almost dead sure it can't be done, but I'm sure some of you must be operating O-22s with MTH transformers.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Dan, I never used a Z-1000 for running my old 711/072 & 022 Lionel Switches, I used the inside channels of my old ZW. PCRR/Dave
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
So then my question would be, how do I operate O-22 switches on fixed voltage while using a Z-1000 to run my trains ?
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Texas Pete ·
Disclaimer: I have no direct experience with the Z-1000 transformer. From a quick check of the instructions it looks as though the power brick connects to the controller with a special cable. The other two connectors on the brick must be the 14 volt accessory power. In a perfect world the two "common" returns (one for the controller, one for accessory power) should be tied together inside the power unit. If so, all you need to do is to connect the output terminal of the accessory posts to...
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

phillyreading ·
I have 2 MTH Z-1000's and just checked the output voltages, I got the same voltage on both the accessory and variable commons to positive terminals, regardless which common I used I got the same voltage at each positive. I would say yes to using the Z-1000's accessory output hot to the 022 constant voltage plug as it seems to make no difference in voltage. FYI; I was using a digital volt meter. I have not tried this with my Z-1000, so I am not 100% sure if it will work, have only tested...
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
I am fearful of doing the test. What you are saying makes sense, but I'm not sure I want to risk it. I might try reaching out to MTH. We'll see how that goes.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

JohnGaltLine ·
The Z-1000, and associated Z-Controller are a strange beast. If your intention is to run only the switches, and nothing else, from the z-1000 brick, it is as simple as making sure the brick is phased with whatever transformer you are using to power the track, then attaching a wire from the common of the other transformer to the common screw terminal on the Z-1000. The hot from the Z-1000 then goes to the power plug on the O22 switches. When this is done you can not use the Z-controller...
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
John, I think I understand but a wiring diagram would be so nice. If I get your explanation correctly, I can use two Z-1000s. One to power the track and another to power switch tracks via fixed voltage plug. If that's correct, how do I phase the two Z-1000s ?
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

JohnGaltLine ·
Dan, I can't recall if you are running conventional (transformer controls) or command (Full power to track and Legacy/DCS to control the trains). The other question is do you already own the z-1000, or are you kicking around ideas. there are other options that may be better suited to your needs, but if you already have a z1k, it would be better to use it than to buy something else. so, what transformers/ controllers do you have already? JGL
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
As of this point I am in the planning stages of my layout to be. I have a brand new Z-1000 transformer and an old KW. I would like to run the trains using the Z-1000, as I am wary of using the older transformer to do so on the newer electronically loaded locomotives. I'm not running Legacy, command control or anything similar, just some Railing locos and one or two older Lionel locomotives. My last layout was back in the '80s. Then I simply ran older Lionel with the KW and knew exactly how...
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

JohnGaltLine ·
Ok, I think I've got the picture. I'm assuming when you say you have the z1000 transformer, you mean you also have the z-controller that goes with it for throttle, whistle/bell etc. Start by hooking up the Z-1k and controller to your track. this should be pretty straight forward. The 120V plug is polarized so it will only go one way. The cord from the Z1000 brick then plugs in to the Z-Controller, and only goes one way. Black post on the Z-Controller to the outside rail, Red post to the...
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
Thanks John. I think we have penetration. Well, almost. Since I am an electronic dummy, I need to know which TVS diode to buy. I did a search for them and came up with way too many to be able to make an intelligent choice. For the circuit breaker, the closest I can find to your suggestion of 5-7 AMP breakers is this at All Electronics http://www.allelectronics.com/...rcuit-breaker/1.html What about an in-line glass circuit breaker ?
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

JohnGaltLine ·
The breaker you've linked appears to be just fine for the job. Glass fuses tend to be good in places where they are a last line of defense, or otherwise unlikely to blow, but they can get expensive pretty quick if used on the output of transformers as they are likely to blow any time anything derails. For a line only running the switch machines you might be ok with a fuse, but for a buck fifty, I'd go with the breaker. On the TVS, the folks here on the forum seem to prefer the 1.5KE36CA.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
John, thank you. You have been most helpful. I'm going to bookmark it all so I won't loose it.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Moonman ·
Dan, The MTH Z-1000 provides about 5.5amps. You can connect the switch power feed to the 14v ACC screws on the brick (transformer) . They are marked + -. I believe it is accepted practice to use only the hot to the switch and let the switch use the track common. That's ok. Then connect the red (hot) and black from the controller posts to the track center and outside rails. However, the switch coils will use up some amperage for the train supply from the controller outputs. As long as you use...
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Re: Lionel 26787 Cop & Hobo Operating Box Car

Dan Padova ·
OK, I had the title incorrect. It should have read Lionel operating jumping hobo car #6-26725. Is anyone familiar with it's operation ? I searched Youtube again and came up empty handed.
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Re: Lionel 26787 Cop & Hobo Operating Box Car

mike g. ·
Hi Dan, I hope this helps. I will keep looking for more. https://www.lionelsupport.com/...ents/72-6787-250.pdf
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Re: Lionel 26787 Cop & Hobo Operating Box Car

Dan Padova ·
Thanks Mike. That explains it well.
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Re: Lionel 26787 Cop & Hobo Operating Box Car

mike g. ·
Im Glad I could help.
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Re: Model railroading definition ?

Rusty Traque ·
If it's a model of a train on a model of track, it's model railroading. Rusty
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Re: Model railroading definition ?

JohnGaltLine ·
I think it is all model railroading, but there are sub-groups from there with sometimes fuzzy descriptions and sometimes over-lapping interests. At one time Hi-rail would have described someone with a goal of realism. now it would be more 2-rail scale/3 rail scale that I think folks into exacting detail and realism use to describe them selves. As for folks that just like to run trains on track and don't give a hoot for the scenery or if their trains look realistic, I think most folks around...
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Re: Model railroading definition ?

3 time modeler ·
Excellent info every one, thank you! My question arose from my experiences finding a club that i might fit into. As I have visited 3 model train groups / clubs around my area and when I arrive to the layout, every one has turned out to have great scenery, and always operating like a real railroad, with operating instructions and what engine you'll run and what cars to pick up and drop off and where, speeds allowed and where they're allowed, etc. all printed on cards, and I have been told...
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L.I.TRAIN ·
Its a BROAD definition !!! so take it anywhere including: plays with trains, but a quote form Howard Zane , "As model railroaders we are more than someone that did not have the good sense to put the trains away after Christmas." Our hobby embraces - collecting, social media, artist, developer, planner, carpenter, electrician, scenery and more. enjoy the journey
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C W Burfle ·
Model Railroading is anything you want it to be. Don't let anybody tell you anything different.
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Re: Model railroading definition ?

handyandy ·
Model Railroading to me has always been the more scale oriented way of "playing with trains." It's a term for how you might phrase it to non-train nut people so as to avoid them getting the idea that you just play with trains. You are building models of trains and the structures and locations they serve. Now that I no longer build/run scale models of trains and their surroundings, I am basically playing with/collecting old toy trains. To make that sound like more of an adult hobby I call it...
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Re: Model railroading definition ?

colorado hirailer ·
That description of club operations above, like with the poster, is way too regimented for me, and one reason I chose to model a short line, where they run a couple of passenger or mixed trains a day and a freight out daily, getting there when it gets there, and back, when all pickups and drop offs have been made.....much more relaxed. Right out of Beebe and Clegg's "Mixed Trains Daily". However, "model railroading" encompasses anything you do with model trains, from running old Marx six...
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
Finally got a chance to do some experimentation with an O22 switch and the Z-1000 transformer. I ran a wire from the common post on the Z-1000 brick to the fixed voltage stud on the O22 switch. It works very well. One critisism about the Z-1000 brick are the accessory screw terminals. They are too close together. Nothing like the good old thumb terminals on older transformers.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

ADCX Rob ·
Just be aware that there is no overload protection for the right side(facing cord & screws) screw terminal on the Z-1000 brick if that's the one powering the 022s.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

Dan Padova ·
The common screw terminal is the left screw. If I understand you correctly, then there would be no overload protection on the Z-1000 accessory circuit if it is used as intended, i.e. both terminals connected to an accessory.
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Re: O-22 Switch Operation Using A Z-1000 Transformer

JohnGaltLine ·
The breaker on the Z1000 is connected to the common side on both the 14V accessory terminals and the 20V barrel jack, so a short between either output's hot and common will trip the breaker. The unprotected route is between both hot connections. Shorting the hot of the barrel jack to the hot screw terminal will give you a 50amp+ short circuit with no breaker/fuse. If your brick is wired "correctly" this is a somewhat unlikely short. If yours is wired the same as the one I bought, however, it...
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