Total run time of no more than 15 minutes, I am selling this like new Lionel 6-38423 Legacy Southern U30C because my grandkids moved away and I have simply lost interest in running the trains by myself. It is in the original packaging with all the protective foam inserts, and has the manual and legacy module. Contact me at email@example.com or by phone at 478-361-9497 I will ship UPS ground to CONUS only. Tracking number provided. I prefer payment via paypal. NOTE: Display track not...
Hi, Everybody I am looking for Lionel Southern Railway Command Control Crane Car with Boom Car. ( 6-29877 and 6-29878) Does everyone now where I can find one or one for sale or trade New Or Used. Hope I can find one. Thank You
Hi Y'all, I'm Bill. I joined the forum a couple days ago and discovered a place for 1:1 trains. Attached is a photo of me taken in 1976. That is me, second, on top of the tender. I was a fireman on the SOUTHERN 4501 from Birmingham to Chattanooga one trip. Picture taken in Chattanooga while the engine was turning around for the return trip. An auto-feed tender follows the engine now. That ruins the fun.
John, Your Atlantic looks and sounds great. I really like Lionel's small Legacy steamers. I have Pennsy B6, H10, and E6 Atlantic and love them all. Good luck with your Atlantic. My friend Ray is supposed to be getting the UP version. JohnB
Did you open the tender and replace the foam under the electronic SOS board? You will want to do that pronto or risk the board shorting. BTW congratulations. Loved the FARR sets, but #4 is the only one I never owned. Longed for the green caboose shown in the catalog and never reconciled with the prototypical red. What, me worry?
As far as I recall, Lionel/MPC never duplicated cars in the FARR sets. In later years of that time period, there were a couple of unit-trains offered. But the FARR "sets" all had unique cars. I use the term "sets" somewhat loosely though, because I'm pretty certain the FARR locomotives and rolling stock were all available for separate purchase. So it's possible folks could have purchased duplicates of certain cars to suit their fancy. No set boxes as I recall. David
Yup, the FARR sets were individual sale items, and had no set boxes. This is a beautiful set, and a beautiful engine, essentially a quality Postwar Berk made with single leading and trailing truck to make it a "Mikado." (One of many examples of how a lot of the MPC-era products were of very high quality, just as good as - and in this case virtually identical to - the Postwar versions.)
No, as stated I never owned the FARR #4 set. The pic was just one I saved off the web to remind me of what I missed. The 7304 stock car was an uncatalogued add-on for the set. The 9887 Fruit Growers Express reefer is missing in the pic. Attached another saved pic of lesser quality depicting the complete set. What, me worry?
Twas better to make a Mikado out of a Berk by swapping down the trailing truck than it was to turn a 736 into a 4-8-4 by installing the world's worst leading truck. I still remember seeing that beautiful set in a train store in Beachwood Mall with my grandmother in 1983. I wore that catalog out that year in record time, although I'd do the same the following year with the Pennsy FARR set and the NYC Hudson (1984). While I've pretty much gone scale, there is still a place in my heart for that...
Two of my friends have one each. It's a nice set with a nice engine, but I prefer the scale version Lionel made in 1992. Still, the MPC equipment is pretty cute and charming, and can be found at great bargains today. If there's one thing that the MPC trains had, it was a lot of bright, flashy, attractive colors to attract consumers. I still have a couple that could use some upgrading...
Didn't 4501 have a mechanical stoker in service? According to Locomotive Wiki the Southern's M class 2-8-2's were given stokers in the 1930's. If not, then it's a little more complicated than just "putting a tender on with an auger." I'd be willing to bet the firemen appreciate the mechanical stoker. It's still not totally "automatic." You still have to use the shovel to touch up the fire when needed. The fireman still needs to know what he's doing. Rusty
What it was in the past, what it is today, I cannot say. When that picture was taken in 1976 two men, including myself, hand stoked that engine from Birmingham to Chattanooga. I would pay to have that honor again. My father was the Road Forman of Engines and he personally supervised operations every time the 4501 or NW 611 ran on the Crescent Division tracks of the Southern Railroad. The 611 had (has) a mechanical stoker.
Hey Bill: Your welcome. If you want the original file that made this color correction. Please hit me up with an e-mail, found on my profile page. I will e-mail you the file and you can take it any place to get printed on color photo paper. Even Wal-Mart can get it right, sometimes. Gary: Rail-fan
Mechanical yes, automatic no. The fireman has to manipulate the stoker controls and adjust the firing rate to match the demand for steam, in addition to touching up the fire by hand. There is nothing automatic about the process whatsoever.
Bill, Welcome to the O Gauge Railroading Forum! That is a great photograph you shared of your experience back in '76 when we were lot younger. You have lived an experience most of us would have liked to have. Although at 62, I don't want to shovel coal from Birmingham to Chattanooga. I had American Freedom Train on my mind when I saw the title of your topic. Silly me!
Bill, Did you ever fire for an engineer named Howard Spurgeon? He sometimes ran 4501 over the Tennessee Division (Sheffield to Chattanooga) and the Alabama Division (Sheffield to Birmingham). I know he also ran it from Sheffield back to Iuka, Miss. I thought you might have crossed paths. Howard was a great family friend and my earliest mentor about railroading when I was a kid. George
That's an excellent illustration of how a stocker works. On the right, in the illustration there are members marked as "Pushers". I presume they are moving pieces that help move the coal toward the auger pit. However, I cannot see how or what moved them.
4501 never had a stoker until TVRM added it and a feedwater heater 4(??) years or so ago. If I remember correctly 4501 currently has a modified tender from a Central of Georgia K class "Big Apple" 4-8-4. 4501's original smaller tender while on the K&T is behind Southern (TVRM) 2-8-0 630. 630's smaller tender is at TVRM not currently being used (or wasn't)
I can't say I've ever seen that exact model, but those lights sure look stock to me. Hard to believe someone went to the trouble to swap them out. What makes you think they're not stock? I found this picture on the web, they look the same to me, even though the picture doesn't have very good resolution.
Hi Erie Express, It looks like the LED has simply worked its way forward. The easiest fix is to take a fine poking tool (tooth pick, etc.) and gently poke the LED back inside the lantern. It there's not enough friction to retain the LED a drop of CA glue should do the trick.
This is a very nice engine. I like mine a lot. Here is a couple of pictures of my engine and the marker lights look the same as yours as you can see. I believe the led lights face forward only. I replaced the marker lights on one of my other MTH engines a few weeks ago. From what I can remember, the green replacement led lights appeared only to be lighted facing forward and were not lighted on the sides. Same is true with the marker lights on the tender. Ken
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