Tagged With "American Flyer"

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American Flyer number games

overlandflyer ·
every time i think the American Flyer numbering system cannot get worse, i have to adjust my thinking. the Flyer 6½" freight cars of the 1920's came in both 4 wheel and 8 wheel versions. for the boxcars, #1112 was the cataloged number used on 4-wheel cars and #1115 was the number used on 8-wheel cars. ...except when it wasn't. add this to the variety of truck types, door graphics & colors and roof types and i've come to the conclusion that a car not listed in the Greenberg text is not...
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Re: Kadee couplers and Lionel/American Flyer/American Models

Tom Stoltz ·
RBG, The radius is too tight for that length of rolling stock. I have run 40 SHS box cars on a flyer 19”radius, but something that length will not work. They probably wouldn’t work on the 24” radius either… not sure about the 29”. You might be able to get way with tango mounted Kadees, however backing moves could be a problem. Tom Stoltz
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Re: Kadee couplers and Lionel/American Flyer/American Models

Retired band guy ·
Thanks guys for all the information. I was looking for a more scale-like look and I like the simplicity and reliability of the Kadees, not that the Flyer couplers were particularly troublesome. I had heard the term Talgo mounted couplers, but didn't know what they were until Tinplate Tom clarified. Anyway, thanks all for your inputs. RBG
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Re: Kadee couplers and Lionel/American Flyer/American Models

poniaj ·
If you're looking for a more scale appearance, American Models has a more scale sized dummy coupler that takes the place of their large Flyer compatible ones. Mounting them on a Flyer truck may be a bit harder, though. In any case, talgo mounting is the only way to go on tight curves. I have a train with talgo mounted dummy couplers and it negotiates tight curves just fine. I don't concern myself with operating couplers on this train since it's a passenger train, and runs as a unit.
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American Flyer #1218

gene maag ·
I was given an American Flyer #1218 set today, I wasn't aware AF produced O gauge Trains. I tested it out on my O gauge Track and it runs pretty good. With a little TLC I think it will run great. When I got it I thought I might sell it on E-bay but after I ran it on my layout next to my Lionel 259's and 261 I think I will keep it. It looks pretty neat with my Lionel Tin Plate collection and is in very good shape, except for a missing roof on the Seattle car. I think a good cleaning will make...
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American Flyer wide radius track

railroad man ·
Hi, at a yard sale on Saturday I purchased a box of American flyer wide radius track ?.The track is brand new with 5 ties and has AMERICAN FLYER imprinted on each tie, I have 10 pieces and 2 straight sections. Who made this track and what is the radius, Thanks, John
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Kadee couplers and Lionel/American Flyer/American Models

Retired band guy ·
How do you convert American Flyer, American Models, etc. couplers to Kadee? I tried mounting a set to the body of a 961 style passenger car, but they'd derail on my 20 inch curves. Sorry if this has been covered in another post....I couldn't find it if it had. Thanks. RBG
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First American Flyer O gauge

Stu Gralnik ·
I picked up this O gauge American Flyer set at the local consignment/ thrift store today. All of my other prewar is Lionel so I am looking for information about the set, Especially the engine and tender. Some interesting things about the engine is the cow catcher is not solid, The trailing truck has 2 journal boxes but only one set of wheels. When looking at the inside of the truck I do not see holes for a set of wheels in front of the truck. The tender is an oil type and has a whistle. The...
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Re: First American Flyer O gauge

franktrain ·
Flyer did the same on the Hiawatha only one axle on the rear truck. Looks like the wheels are in good shape. I believe this loco has firebox glow too. Nice pickup let us know if it runs okay.
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Re: First American Flyer O gauge

Dan65train ·
First year for the Hudson. Trailing truck correct. Tender needs Flyer's special 4 rail track to activate whistle. You can see an ebay listing here. PREWAR AMERICAN FLYER O GAUGE TRAIN WHISTLE TRACK 4 RAIL BANKED CARDBOARD BASE . I have a couple of these Hudsons and some will make it on lionel's 31" diameter curves but they don't like it. They were designed for 40" I believe. Nice smooth runners. Dan
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Re: American Flyer number games

overlandflyer ·
from the same family of Flyer freight cars... #1118 Tank Car -- i'd love to get ahold of that font! and a #1117 caboose. the 4-wh version was cataloged as number #1114. this one is on the earlier Type II trucks. a slightly later version featuring Type IV trucks & with added handrails and ladders sporting #1114 on one side... and #1117 on the other side. i tend to call these blunders rather than errors. cheers...gary
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Re: American Flyer number games

Rob English ·
Hah, you have not even scratched the surface yet. Lets say that Prewar Flyer (pre gilbert) was Laissez-Faires about numbering. I have gons with 1112, 1115 and 1117 numbering. Im thinking that research to try and make sense of it all is basically futile. We know some, but all? No way.
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Rob English ·
Sorry Art... he's got his hands full with Lionel O gauge Vol II and Vol III. There is probably only a handful of folks that care about Flyer and not enough to warrant a book on Prewar.
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Re: Kadee couplers and Lionel/American Flyer/American Models

Dave_C ·
I'll try to answer this. I'm not familiar with S Scale . But have done numerous 3RS conversions. I'm guessing your using an S Scale Kadee for this. From your post. It sounds like you only did one car. You pretty much can't run a passenger car with body mounted couplers mixed in with truck mounted couplers and not have a derailment. At least scale length ones. Not familiar with a 20 inch curve. They seem a little tight. Even if you body mounted all your cars. 3RS you need at least an 072...
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Re: Kadee couplers and Lionel/American Flyer/American Models

AmFlyer ·
For the O gauge people, a 961 Gilbert car on 20"R track is similar to an 18" O gauge passenger car on O54. Body mounted KD's will not work. A truck mounted coupler will. I have minimum 30" R curves with easements and body mounted couplers on the 13" long cars are not desirable.
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Re: Kadee couplers and Lionel/American Flyer/American Models

Tinplate Tom ·
It is 'Talgo' mounted couplers, or those mounted on the truck as opposed to body mounted couplers.
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Re: First American Flyer O gauge

jim sutter ·
I maybe wrong but I think you have your caboose backwards.
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Stu Gralnik ·
Jim, good catch, yes it is backwards for what most people think is normal. The reason is the other side has more rust and chipped paint. There are pictures of prototype Railroads running the caboose cupola on the forward side. http://cs.trains.com/ctr/b/mil...lassic-cabooses.aspx http://cs.trains.com/ctr/b/mil...lassic-cabooses.aspx http://cs.trains.com/ctr/b/mil...lassic-cabooses.aspx http://cs.trains.com/ctr/b/mil...lassic-cabooses.aspx http://cs.trains.com/ctr/b/mil...lassic-cabooses.aspx
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Re: American Flyer #1218

Steamer ·
great looking pieces.
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Re: American Flyer #1218

RoyBoy ·
I think roofs were reproduced. Someone like Mr. Trickle would know. And Papa Eastman on this forum would certainly know.
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Re: American Flyer #1218

Rob English ·
Just clean with a damp rag. wipe and rotate the rag often. The black paint is robust on these generally. Be careful wiping.... the sheet metal can be sharp from the die cutting.
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Re: American Flyer wide radius track

PAUL ROMANO ·
I bought some of that track back in the mid-80s with the black rubber roadbed. I know LIONEL didn't sell it. I can't remember who I bought from out of a magazine article. Maybe some of the older S guys like Lou Palumbo may know. It was good stuff.
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Re: American Flyer wide radius track

ctomita ·
It is K-Line track sold by Lionel (which had acquired the rights when K-Line went under). It's recognizable by the slightly wider track pins. It's considered 27" radius but I don't know if that is measured to the inside rail, outside rail, or center line. Craig
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Re: American Flyer wide radius track

Roundhouse Bill ·
Gilbert never made wide radius track.
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Re: American Flyer wide radius track

Brendan ·
Lucky find. They also made 40" or 36" straights. Brendan
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Re: American Flyer wide radius track

Rayin"S" ·
You may want to check the gauge of the track as compared to the Gilbert track, I acquired a few of the K-Line 10" straights and used them when my layout went together. You will be OK with Gilbert and Flyonel locomotives but I found that my American Models locomotives wobble through these sections, the 10" sections I have are stamped K-Line and are a little narrow on the gauge. The wide radius curves may not have the same problem but it might be a good idea to check the gauge before...
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Re: American Flyer wide radius track

railroad man ·
I dont plan to use them, for a dollar, could not pass it up. If anyone in South Jersey area (Pitman, Glassboro or Woodbury could use them, let me know, John
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railroad man ·
Art, your email was deleted by mistake, where are you coming from. There are 8 sections curved a D 4 sections of straight .
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Re: American Flyer number games

Tinplate Art ·
Frustrating as it is, the obvious explanation is they were considered mere toys and future collectors were not part of the manufacturer's reality.
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Re: American Flyer number games

Tinplate Art ·
Maybe Bruce Greenberg's "clinics" will produce the definitive guide, but do not hold your breath! LOL!
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overlandflyer ·
i believe i've heard of them... did they make trains, too?
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RoyBoy ·
They made everything, designed everything and were first with everything. Just ask any true blue Lionel foamer.
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Rob English ·
I think so.
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Re: American Flyer number games

Ives1122 ·
Thanks for sharing all the freight cars. I enjoy looking at them and the litho work is beautiful. One thing I've often thought about is that I bet the factory employees couldn't even keep straight what they were making at times. The numbering system was probably designed by some super smart, organized, OCD person, and it was just a miserable mess of confusion for everyone else, especially with the steam locos / tenders. Think of how much productivity time was lost, just trying to put out...
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Found - American Flyer 1681 with 4 wheel trailing truck

George S ·
Looking for one in complete, running, nice condition with green stripe coal tender.
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Which Hobby Stores In Your Area Have a Good, Regularly Refreshed Selection Of Postwar Trains?

Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
I have been finding recently that at least two of the hobby shops in our area have been buying postwar trains and keeping a reasonably good selection for display and sale. My sense is that the selection has become better over time. This makes each visit a bit more of an adventure, more than merely looking at the episodic arrival of new product from current manufacturers. The two hobby shops where I have recently noticed this influx are Great Lakes Hobby in Sterling Heights, MI, and Empire...
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American Flyer Semi Trailer Trucks

Rayin"S" ·
Dave Olson, Several years back Lionel made a couple of semi trailer trucks with two different blue and yellow paint schemes decorated with the AF logo. I have had discussions with several other members in our club and we wondered if there might be the possibility of one or two more with the red and white AF paint scheme? I would be in the market for these, would anyone else like to see these? Ray
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American Flyer Reverse unit wiring O gauge

Roy O ·
Need help on wiring for my AF reverse unit. Pk up contact, brushes, reverse unit coil and field. Photos included. Thank you Roy O
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Re: American Flyer 565 Wiring problem.

Train Doctor ·
Just one point, the prewar American Flyer locos use different contact sets, the contacts on the front of the reverse unit are the same as the postwar, but the off set contacts on top of the reverse unit are opposite arranged, off set to the left, instead of to the right, as postwar locos use. Doug Peck has the correct contacts, do a google search to get his email address.
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Re: American Flyer 565 Wiring problem.

Streamlined Steamroller ·
Originally Posted by Train Doctor: Just one point, the prewar American Flyer locos use different contact sets, the contacts on the front of the reverse unit are the same as the postwar, but the off set contacts on top of the reverse unit are opposite arranged, off set to the left, instead of to the right, as postwar locos use. Doug Peck has the correct contacts, do a google search to get his email address. I actually have fixed this loco! I have seen online that you will have to replace the...
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Re: Still Trying To Figure Out What Direction To Pursue In S Advice Please

Rusty Traque ·
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Re: Still Trying To Figure Out What Direction To Pursue In S Advice Please

TOKELLY ·
S scale is the perfect size for running a model railroad. As long as you realize that the assortment of rolling stock is far more limited than either HO or O scale, S is an excellent choice. Within S scale (I'm referring to it as the more accurate "scale" than the common "gauge."), there are the two choices you noted: "scale," meaning more prototypically sized rail, wheels, and couplers; and high-rail that is larger and more toy-like. The scale-sized products are available from American...
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Re: Still Trying To Figure Out What Direction To Pursue In S Advice Please

Bill Nielsen ·
The scale wheel vs. hirail wheels problem is not impossible to overcome, but doing so reduces the scale look of your track. You will still have to use oversized rail, and for my layout, I chose to use closed-frog turnouts, which can work with either sized flanges. Originally this was because I wanted to accommodate hi-rail because a friend was a big Flyer fan, though he still hasn’t tried to run anything on my layout. Recently, I have found myself running an Atlantic and a 4-4-0 (both of...
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Re: Still Trying To Figure Out What Direction To Pursue In S Advice Please

Rusty Traque ·
DCC uses it's own power source, it is not DC. DCC puts out a modulated square wave alternating voltage resembling a communications signal rather than the fixed sine wave frequency of AC. A conventional DC locomotive will just sit and buzz on a DCC powered track. Any Legacy Flyer locomotive made after 2012 will run on DCC. A FlyerChief locomotive will run using a DCC power source, but has to be operated off of the FlyerChief handheld controller. Rusty
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Re: Still Trying To Figure Out What Direction To Pursue In S Advice Please

Classy Woods, LLC ·
Hoping my layout will be 15' x 30' and want to run multiple locomotives at the same time. So if I am understandig this: Lionel Legacy : DCC controller okay And TMCC American Models: install decorders and sound for DCC If I own any Flychief they need to be ran using their own remote but the DCC powesource is okay. No big deal. It seems to me DC is the way to go if I am not concerend with running older American Flyer? So AC is more attune to operating conventional locos like older American...
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Re: Still Trying To Figure Out What Direction To Pursue In S Advice Please

AmFlyer ·
Bill, the thread 3 below this one in the S Forum called Fox Valley Turnouts has a lot of information on how to make open frog turnouts work for scale and high rail. I also posted closeup pictures of my turnouts there. It requires getting the height of the frog insert correct and the spacing between the rails and wing rails correct. When this is done all highrail wheelsets must be perfectly in gauge to work w/o derailing. 100% of the Lionel Flyer rolling stock will have to be regauged, all...
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Re: Still Trying To Figure Out What Direction To Pursue In S Advice Please

Rusty Traque ·
Pretty much correct. Unless you're going to get serious about running traditional AC powered Flyer, I would suggest save a couple of bucks and get AM with DC operation and install DCC at your leisure. AM has sound in a couple of locomotives, but it's very archaic and nowhere near anyone else in sound quality. As I mentioned earlier, I'm a Scale Guy. My railroad will run DC or DCC at the flip of the block toggles and that works well for me. I wind up running conventional DC for the most part...
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Re: American Flyer Semi Trailer Trucks

Rayin"S" ·
Mark, That is exactly my thought, I never considered putting it on a rail car but using it on the roadways. I have seen many places where even 1/43rd cars are on flyer layouts, but I am toy train/ high rail oriented. Ray
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Re: Looking for American Flyer Fan in Western Pennslyvania

trainroomgary ·
Hi Mark / This is a new video, published, November 14th., 2016 / you may find this helpful. If I could push an easy button, I would go from Lionel to A.C. Gilbert American Flyer. As a kid I shared American Flyer Trains, with my two brothers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAiUBUWyz8w TM's American Flyer Legends in Action Spectacular layouts covering the evolution of American Flyer trains over the past 100 years. From the tinplate wide gauge of the Prewar years to A.C. Gilbert's 3/16" O...
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Re: Looking for American Flyer Fan in Western Pennslyvania

Rayin"S" ·
If I could push an easy button, I would go from Lionel to A.C. Gilbert American Flyer. As a kid I shared American Flyer Trains, with my two brothers. Gary, We would welcome you with open arms, you are an asset to Lionel and I know you would be much appreciated in S. Ray
 
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