Tagged With "DCC"

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Convert Weaver Coach to DCC

tigermoth ·
Good Evening Group. I have several Weaver coaches that have factory installed lighting. I would like to convert them to DCC so I can control the on/off light function. I would also like to include a keep alive capacitor. I am using Loksound decoders for the rest of the layout so would like to stay with that brand. The Weaver coaches obviously have wheel pick-ups and incandescent bulbs already installed. I am looking for some direction on how to proceed. Thanks, Stephen
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Looking for someone with a Bachmann Susquehanna 142

RDGCO.Productions ·
Hello, yes I'm looking for a HO DC or DCC Bachmann Spectrum Susquehanna 142. If anyone has one that's DC my maximum price would be 90 with no broken parts/peices of the loco. For DCC (and if you have it DCC with sound) my maximum is around 300. Please get back to me soon, and have a good day!
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Atlas 2-rail RS-1: Trains America Studios - Smoke Unit

UK Dave ·
Hi, this is my first post as a member from over the pond! I have a US O scale DCC layout that I exhibit in the UK. One of my locomotives is an Atlas "Pennsylvania" RS-1 that had a Lionel TMSS system. I am part way in the process of converting it for DCC use: have (carefully) removed the TMSS and installed DCC with sound. Electro magnetic couplers have been replaced with standard Kadee 740s. I found the article by Gene Clements (O Scale Trains, Sept/Oct '07 very useful). I am now at the stage...
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NCE RB01 DCC radio base station

Keystoned Ed ·
This NCE RB01 radio base was used on my model railroad and is fully functional and in in excellent condition. It is the first generation RB01 version and is compatible with all NCE radio cabs. On my railroad the operating range from the RB01 to radio cabs exceeded 40'. The unit comes with the radio base, 7" antenna, 40" cab bus cable, and the NCE RB01 manual. Price: $60 shipped. Note: NCE offers a mail in upgrade service for installation of radio receiver/transmitter boards in any of their...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
The board is truncating the link, it is the full length including the question mark, let try to insert it again here... " http://www.mthtrains.com/searc...r_search/Proto-Scale 3-2 3-Rail/2-Rail Conversion Capable Proto-Sound 3.0? " Chris
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Martin H ·
Read this.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
Ok, the board is still truncating the link, copy and paste the link in between the quotes and insert in a new browser window address bar and it will work. Sorry, don't know why it is cutting of the link. Chris
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
Thanks Martin, let's try this again... http://www.mthtrains.com/search/apachesolr_search/Proto-Scale%203-2%203-Rail/2-Rail%20Conversion%20Capable%20Proto-Sound%203.0? Looks like that worked. Thanks, Chris
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Bill McBride ·
It seemed that the first engine that came up is a personal favorite of mine: the GP30. My recollection is that the MTH Proto Sound 3.0 GP30 was not offered in the "scale wheels" version with fixed pilot and, well, scale wheels. I only have experience with one MTH diesel and that is a scale-wheel engine so it needed no conversion. My understanding is that removing the 3rd rail electrical contact roller is easy. How about replacing those ginormous hi-rail wheels? Does MTH sell a fixed pilot as...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Bill McBride ·
Thanks, Dave. My one MTH diesel is a PS3 "-2" scale wheel version. I was just wondering if there might be an easy way to transform a "-1" MTH PS3 diesel into some semblance of a "-2."
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
@Bill, it is my understanding that there is a way to do it and I was pointed in the direction of Joe Foehrkolb at Baldwin Forge & Machine - RRJJF@aol.com , who does this for folks. Check out his web site. I want to convert some lionel and other basic types as well and have them lined up for him when I get to them on the project list. Chris
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Hudson J1e ·
Bill and anyone else interested, just because a MTH locomotive is not offered in the scale wheels version does not automatically mean it is not 3/2 capable. There are some MTH locomotives that are 3/2 capable but do not come in a scale wheel version with the -2. This means that you don't have to send the locomotive to Baldwin Forge & Machine for conversion. You can convert it yourself by buying the scale wheels from MTH and installing them. Even if you sent it to Joe at Baldwin Forge...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
@Hudson, great point! I thought you could "re-tool" the standard MTH offerings for 2-rail but, don't know anyone who has done so successfully. It makes good sense. The reason I reached out to Joe @ Baldwin is because I am getting the new MTH R-142 subway set which only comes in a 3-rail version but, obviously I would need to get it to 2-rail. I have never attempted a conversion myself and am very hesitant to to start out on a brand new set with PS 3 in it. I wonder how difficult it is. If...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Hudson J1e ·
Originally Posted by newtoO: @Hudson, great point! I thought you could "re-tool" the standard MTH offerings for 2-rail but, don't know anyone who has done so successfully. It makes good sense. The reason I reached out to Joe @ Baldwin is because I am getting the new MTH R-142 subway set which only comes in a 3-rail version but, obviously I would need to get it to 2-rail. I have never attempted a conversion myself and am very hesitant to to start out on a brand new set with PS 3 in it. I...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Jeff78rr ·
I just finished up my 23rd diesel loco conversion to fixed pilots and full length handrails that have the capability of having either 3-rail or 2-rail wheel sets. These are not easy to do. Most, if not all 6-axle diesels locos are going to require the use of a bench grinder to remove alot of the inner portion of the pilot as there is too much metal to allow the truck to swing. However, I've figured it out and will post some "how-to" pics soon. I do 3 at a time to keep it rolling. Tichy train...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
@Hudson, there is some good news on the DCS/DCC front. All of the MTH locos with PS3 have DCC bult in already and they even automatically detect the the signal... AC/DC/DCS/DCC. That is a major reason I am looking MTH PS3 locos. I am getting a subway but, I am working on a few parallel tracks at the same time. I am trying to get out of 3-rail to simplify things here, so I need to 2-rail those vehicles and simultaneously I am working on building new modules for a layout. I am a member of East...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
@Jeff, wow, 23. That's cool. Can't wait to see the how to pics! Thanks for sharing your experience, thsi is really helpful. Chris
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Hudson J1e ·
Originally Posted by newtoO: @Hudson, there is some good news on the DCS/DCC front. All of the MTH locos with PS3 have DCC bult in already and they even automatically detect the the signal... AC/DC/DCS/DCC. That is a major reason I am looking MTH PS3 locos. Chris Chris, That is very good news about the DCS/DCC switch but are you sure? I have a PS3 locomotive, I admit it is one of the early ones, but it does have the DCS/DCC switch on the bottom of it. Hey, I really hope you are correct about...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

AGHRMatt ·
Looking forward to that How-To. I have about two dozen I'd like to switch over to fixed pilots even though most of them are 3-rail only. Originally Posted by Jeff78rr: I just finished up my 23rd diesel loco conversion to fixed pilots and full length handrails that have the capability of having either 3-rail or 2-rail wheel sets. These are not easy to do. Most, if not all 6-axle diesels locos are going to require the use of a bench grinder to remove alot of the inner portion of the pilot as...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Jeff78rr ·
Sounds good that there are those who want to do these conversions. It takes some time, but once you dive in, it really is straight forward. Will post pics on my next conversion which I will be starting tonight. So far I've done my SD70ACes, ES44's and AC4400's. Next up are the AC6000's, SD40-2's, and Dash-8 narrow nose engines. I use the new Kadee 745's on everything, which gives you the metal coupler (springs hidden) and plastic draft boxes. These are very nice couplers.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Martin H ·
I think this is a difficult project. I fixed the pilot on a MTH Premier sd70m non-powered, but I could figure out how to do the handrails. Also, I fixed the pilot to the frame. Should I have instead fixed the pilot to the shell? If you fix the pilot to the frame, you'll have to remove the handrails if you ever want to take the shell off in the future. I have a powered ac4400cw I would like to fix the pilot on and put kadees.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

bob2 ·
I have not converted an MTH Diesel, and probably won't ever, but here is a hundred dollar K-Line. All I did other than changing the wheels is screw the pilot to the metal part that holds the handrails in place. This will offend a lot of folks, since the handrails do not go down and there is a double step at the interface. On the other hand I have a hundred thirty dollar scale F-M. I may leave it Lackawanna. MTH has, since the very early 1990s, produced 2-rail O Scale, so there never has been...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Jeff78rr ·
Martin, the AC4400 is very difficult, but I've done my entire fleet of them. Will show you how in pics soon- I use screws for all my conversions so in the event I want to remove the shell for whatever reason, all you do is remove them, and the pilot will swin upwards out of the way with the handrails attached. I've done it like this for a reason for sure. Bob, good job on the FM. One thing you can do is add a 4mm piece of Plastruct styrene on each side (front and back) of pilot and super...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

AGHRMatt ·
Originally Posted by bob2: ... I know you did not specifically ask about steam, but I have a J1e Hudson that ran on my 2- rail track right out of the box. I was not happy with its appearance, so replaced drivers, cylinders, main frame, motor, gearbox, and all wheelsets. All I have to do now is get a factory reset. It is a very nice piece, rivalling the 700E. Bob. E-mail me off-list regarding resetting that Hudson.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Jeff78rr ·
Bill, if you're doing an MTH enigne with the 3/2 rail option (all newer engines) it is a breeze- you can swap wheelsets out very easily by taking out the 4 small screws on each truck block, lifting off the cover and removing the axles/wheelsets. Next you drop in the replacements and put the cover back on- as easy as that. Not sure about other manufacturers' engines as they are not made to do it quite as easy--
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Jeff78rr ·
Here are a couple of my MTH engines that I converted to fixed pilots and full length handrails, an SD70ACe and AC4400. There are also step backs inside each area where the steps are- . I also changed out the sill stripes to a yellow that Microscale is selling that is close to reflective as I can find. I've done my fleet using these... more pics of a how-to coming as I do the next set. Although these are on 3-rail track, I also have the 2-rail wheelsets to run on 2-rail.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

clem k ·
Hey Jeff do you use the MTH plows on the pilot? I'm fixing the pilots on my MTH SD40-2 this evening.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Bill McBride ·
Thanks, Jeff. I managed to find my O Scale Trains Issue #53 in which John Sethian lays out his method for converting MTH 3-rail engines using MTH's Aerotrain. Maybe Santa will spring for an MTH GP30 on which I can practice...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Jeff78rr ·
Clem, I do use the plows- what you'll need to do though is drill another hole close to the existing hole, then countersink it for the screw. Since it is going to create some overhang on the back side, trim off about 1/4" of the ends with a Dremel to prevent the truck sideframe from catching it.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Martin H ·
I had to do the same thing on my conversion, or the plow would interfere with the kadee staying coupled on start/stops. Originally Posted by Jeff78rr: Clem, I do use the plows- what you'll need to do though is drill another hole close to the existing hole, then countersink it for the screw. Since it is going to create some overhang on the back side, trim off about 1/4" of the ends with a Dremel to prevent the truck sideframe from catching it.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Stephen Bloy ·
Hears a factory fixed pilot SD70ACe form MTH, you can see what a nice job Jeff has done. I will be following Jeffs methods with interest as I have a SD50 to do! Stephen (cTr...Choose the Right)
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

bob2 ·
I have the talent to make that end look like the real thing, but I would rathr work on steam models. When this powerful locomotive is hauling a string of cars around the test loop, I do not notice the flaws in the pilot. On the other hand, that Kadee mount is carefully machined from brass to completely fill the giant hole originally designed for lobster claw couplers. These plastic models can be taken to any degree of realism an owner could want with minimum effort. The MTH trucks that are...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
@Bob, Unfortunately, the subway set I want, the MTA R-142A's doesn't list the "Proto-Scale 3-2 3-Rail/2-Rail Conversion Capable" feature that enables the drop in wheel set conversions. I wish it did. Chris
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Bill McBride ·
@Jeff: The drop in wheel sets sound great. I can work with the pilot. How hard is it to remove the lobster-claw couplers from the truck-pilot assembly? Is it screws or does it require some metal cutting with a Dremel? BTW the part # for the 4-axle trucks is MTH part 20-89008 and its features are listed by MTH as: (4) Scale Wheel Wheel Sets Insulated Axles All-Metal Wheels & Axles Fully Assembled, Ready-to-Drop-In
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Jeff78rr ·
Bill, the coupler is super easy- remove the shell, then remove the pilot. Next, turn the engine upside down. Remove the c-ring for the coupler with pliers, be careful with the spring popping- hold it securely. The coupler comes off the truck assembly. You'll need to follow the plug to the harness and unplug it. It comes out at that point, pigtail and connectors. Just follow the leads to unplug.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Bill McBride ·
Thanks, Jeff. This sounds actually do-able! I have had no reason to remove the shell on my MTH PS3 scale-wheel engine (but I should to do something about the red marker lights which look cool but are always on when the rest of the lights are on). I hope this is easy, too. I have found Atlas has too many screws, that seem to be in inaccessible places, to get their danged shells off. The first time I did an Atlas dis-assembly I think I unscrewed 1,000 screws. Of course, only 6 held the shell on.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Hudson J1e ·
Originally Posted by Bill McBride: @Jeff: The drop in wheel sets sound great. I can work with the pilot. How hard is it to remove the lobster-claw couplers from the truck-pilot assembly? Is it screws or does it require some metal cutting with a Dremel? BTW the part # for the 4-axle trucks is MTH part 20-89008 and its features are listed by MTH as: (4) Scale Wheel Wheel Sets Insulated Axles All-Metal Wheels & Axles Fully Assembled, Ready-to-Drop-In Bill, I am looking at my MTH catalog...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Bill McBride ·
Thanks. I took the number from Sethian's OST article. I am glad you set me straight before I ordered a set.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Austin Bill ·
Not exactly on topic, but, I successfully ran my PS3 scale wheeled Rio Grande GP-35 on our club 3 rail layout pulling a short string of reefers. I really didn't expect a scale flanged engine to take the curves on TUBULAR track. But, it was no problem. Ran fine for quite a while at a decent speed. No sweat. The club layout has K-Line Shadow Rail TUBULAR track. That particular loop of track has 120 inch diameter curves which I'm sure helped. Also it behaved on our Ross numbered switches as I...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
@AustinBill, that is great information and I think it is totally on point. While this thread started as a 3 to 2 rail conversation, the performance of the PS3 is a key component of that. The main reason I am looking as these Protoscale 3-2 and Protosound 3 engines is because they can be 2 railed and run on either DCC or DC for my home and club. Great experiement, thanks for trying that out. I think the combined flexibility built in to these engines in Protoscale and Protosound systems is a...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Mike DeBerg ·
Jeff, The locos look awesome! I do think you need more BNSF hoppers! Originally Posted by Jeff78rr: Here are a couple of my MTH engines that I converted to fixed pilots and full length handrails, an SD70ACe and AC4400. There are also step backs inside each area where the steps are- . I also changed out the sill stripes to a yellow that Microscale is selling that is close to reflective as I can find. I've done my fleet using these... more pics of a how-to coming as I do the next set. Although...
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Re: Atlas 2-rail RS-1: Trains America Studios - Smoke Unit

Mike CT ·
Here is a look at the (EOB) control board. Note the (4) wires to the smoke unit. There is a low fluid level (??thermistor??) as part of the smoke unit to inhibit smoke resistor burn out. There is only one track feed AC to the board. Depending on how the mother board was programmed, there were different functions/voltages. TAS turbo smoke unit . From the resource section of Legacy TMCC control
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Re: Atlas 2-rail RS-1: Trains America Studios - Smoke Unit

UK Dave ·
Mike Thanks for diagram - unfortunately, my TAS motherboard differs slightly, it is a ver. 1.5 and has only 3 pins versus the 4 in your board. However, it is not a problem as I will not be using the motherboard. Thanks also for the link to the Turbo Smoke pdf file: it has told me that connect B relates to track feed to the heater element and I now know that good practice is to have an on/off track feed arrangement. I guess it could either be a simple on/off switch or a DCC function to...
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Re: Atlas 2-rail RS-1: Trains America Studios - Smoke Unit

Mikado ·
The wires labeled B are power, pin closest the smoke bowl is AC hot, pin in the middle is AC Ground. The 3rd pin (furthest from the some bowl) is chuff input, which is not used on diesels. Not sure what A is connected to, assuming +5VDC from the regulator and ground? If so, these go to the fan motor. The question marks were the fan motor, but requires the chuff input to work properly. hope that helps! Mike
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Re: Atlas 2-rail RS-1: Trains America Studios - Smoke Unit

UK Dave ·
Thanks Mike. So that helps to rule out"??". Now, I have the heater element warming and, with A wired to the fan motor, a working fan - all from the track feed B connection. Not sure what voltage is carrying through to the motor - will have to measure it. Dave
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Re: Atlas 2-rail RS-1: Trains America Studios - Smoke Unit

UK Dave ·
Just an update re the resurrected Lionel/TAS Smoke unit - for proposed use with DCC systems. 1. Research now completed and a test-bed has been created using ESU Decoder Tester - see (very short) mp4 video below. 2. Smoke unit heater element connected to DCC input connector on ESU test-bed; have cannibalised the Atlas loco's Variable resistor unit to permit variable fan control. 3. The heater unit draws requires 10.7 volts and 1.08 amps; the heater fan 4.95 volts and .10 amps. The video shows...
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Re: MTH DCS and DCC Compatability???

trainroomgary ·
The Detroit Model Railroad Club • 2 Rail Scale MTH 3.0 Premier - is now the most popular loco on the club layout, we can run them at home on a 3 - Rail Layout using MTH / DCS or at the club on a Scale, 2-Rail Layout using DCC. Must have scale wheels and remove the pick up rollers on 2 - rail scale. Add Kadee Couplers, Metal We use the following, to operate MTH 3.0 Primer locos with DCC. • Engine Driver for a Smart Device and WiThrottle for a iPhone or iPad. Check out these links for, using...
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Re: MTH DCS and DCC Compatability???

Casey Jones2 ·
Imagine that! 6 months ago I remember you grumbling and speaking out that it was not worth the time nor $$$ to convert from PS2 to PS3 as there was no real advantage...how times have changed!! Getting a bit hungry??
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Re: MTH DCS and DCC Compatability???

GGG ·
I think you have the wrong person, or you have it out of context. So not sure why you are trying to pick a fight. Too much idle time? I certainly would say there is not much benefit for a 3 Railer running DCS to convert a PS-2 to PS-3 just because. I have always pointed out the advantages of PS-3 for 2 rail and DC and DCC operations. G
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Re: MTH DCS and DCC Compatability???

Hudson J1e ·
Casey, over the years GGG has helped dozens and dozens of people on this forum (including me) with free advice on troubleshooting or repairing their trains. Let's have a little respect for one of the good guys on this forum. What was probably said (just my guess I wasn't there) was that the upgrade isn't worth it for the typical 3 Railer. It would cost the person over $200 and all they really get for their money is they lose the battery. If I was a 3 Railer I would not upgrade to PS3 unless...
 
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