Tagged With "Protosound"

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3 Rail Conversion of Sunset Brass

Will Ebbert ·
Hello all, I have a 1980(ish) Sunset Models N&W J Class 4-8-4. It is all original (right now) and I need to convert it from 2 rail operation to 3 rail. I have found a company that will install MTH ProtoSound 3 in it, but I was wondering work I need to do to prepare it for that. For the wheels I am using Lionel's parts for their recent rendition of the 611. Obviously I will need to install pickup rollers, but should I also use the Lionel motor or is there a better option? Also, are there...
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Damaged the electronics running DC instead of AC+

ipmagcol ·
I have bought an MTH RailKing PCC Street Car with ProtoSound version 1.0. When I first got it, I put it on my Loinel track with DC for a short while. Now with AC power it just seems to stand in "RESET" state (not moving at all). The sound seams to be there and the bell dings two times upon startup. Can I have damaged the DCRU electronic reverse unit by running DC? I have got it running on AC power by shifting the yellow connectors so the engine gets power from the marker light connector, now...
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Engine problems

Gandydancer ·
I have a 2-8-8-4 Premiere Yellowstone Steam engine with ProtoSound, MTH catalog #20-3030-1 and has a BCR install in it.  It was featured in the 1999 Vol.1 MTH catalog.  I was running it in conventional mode with my Z-4000 Transformer.  The engine worked perfectly until I stopped it, and throttled the transformer back to "O" volts.  The engine now had no power to it.  While checking a piece of track in front of my transformer I accidentally throttled the transformer...
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MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
Hi All, I am a 3-rail person going to 2-rail and want to thank everyone for their posts and insights on converting 3-rail locos to 2-rail. I have learned a lot and was able to put this little search query together to help other newbies like me...
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Nashville Area Members-Request for help

Oldham4 ·
Greetings fellow forum members, I am wondering if there are any members that live in the Greater Nashville Tennessee area, who would be willing to provide a little help. I have a PS-2 Steam locomotive, whose board I recently had to replace. ...
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MTH K4s (original Protosounds) using Lionel ZW-L

Jim R. ·
A friend tried to post a question on my behalf, but mingled it with a question of his own, which complicated the matter. So, to simply, I'll restate the question I have. I recently began running an MTH Premier K4s, which is equipped with original Protosounds and a BCR (in place of the original NiCad). The engine runs fine using my MTH Z-4000 transformer. I simply charge up the BCR for a minute at 10 volts, turn the throttle down to under 10 volts, and then take it out of reset with a push of...
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MTH NON-Working Protosound-2 Board

Dan Padova ·
I am doing repairs to an MTH locomotive. I removed the Protosound-2 board as I have other plans for the innards of this loco. The seller I purchased the loco from claimed that the PS-2 board was not working. The board is available to anyone who would like it, for postage alone.
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MTH Protosound-2 Question

Dan Padova ·
So I am looking at an MTH loco on Ebay. The seller states he does not know the amount of miles or time on the loco. Do these newer loco s have some sort of odometer ?
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RK-1113L Protosound 1 PS1 Dryfuss Hudson without battery?

Jim Haley ·
I am replacing all the batteries in my MTH locos with BCR replacements. I opened my RK-1113L PS1 Dryfuss Hudson (purchased second hand) but there is no 9V battery that I can see (or any battery at all). There are two boards stacked in the tender and one has an almost battery sized black box but it soldered to the board and does not look like a battery. The black box has a sticker on it that says QSI Patent No.'S 4,914, 431,5, 184, 078 & Patents pending. Anyone know where my battery is? I...
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Proto-Sound 3 Powerports?

Copter ·
I own the MTH 4-6-0 Steam Freight R-T-R Train Set w/Proto-Sound 3.0 (30-4215-1).  I would like to install a flickering fire box and two green marker lights in the 4-6-0 Steamer.  Within the locomotive, are there powerports on the DCS...
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Upgrading 3-Rail O From Conventional to TMCC w/RailSound 4 and Cruise Control (Odyssey)

JTTrains ·
Jamestown Train Depot, www.JTTrains.com specializes in control system upgrades for your engines. ProtoSound Version 1, ProtoSound Version 2/3 with bad boards (broken), Conventional Modern AND your favorite Pre/POSTWAR runners can all be outfitted with Lionel TMCC (using ElectricRR) and have RailSounds and Cruise Control (Odyssey) added. Note: Pre/Postwar Engines will not be permanently altered and can be put back to original conventional system when considering the engine’s value in original...
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Upgrade From Conventional to TMCC w/RailSound 4 and Cruise Control (Odyssey)

JTTrains ·
Jamestown Train Depot, www.JTTrains.com specializes in control system upgrades for your engines. ProtoSound Version 1, ProtoSound Version 2/3 with bad boards (broken), Conventional Modern AND your favorite Pre/POSTWAR runners can all be outfitted with Lionel TMCC (using ElectricRR) and have RailSounds and Cruise Control (Odyssey) added. Note: Pre/Postwar Engines will not be permanently altered and can be put back to original conventional system when considering the engine’s value in original...
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Will there ever be an MTH ProtoSound 4.0?

Former Member ·
I would like to know if MTH has plans to make a PS4 sound system for future trains and what it would do.
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Loading PS Sounds To Legacy Engines?

Former Member ·
I looked for answers on this forum but I found none - so, is it possible to convert the sounds on a Legacy SD70ACe from 2011 (NS Fictional Heritage #1907) to one of MTH's SD70ACe ProtoSound 2 or 3 sounds with the DCS TIU? No offense to Lionel enthusiasts, but the horn on it sounds like a church organ. Why don't they put more effort into their sounds? If there isn't a way to do it with the DCS TIU, is there an alternative, like Lionel's version of the MTH DCS Consumer Loader? I have a few...
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Protosound Labored Chuff Operation

Jon Henshey ·
First let me be clear, I LOVE DCS and Protosound. All my MTH locomotives (about 20) are PS2, so I have no experience with PS3 yet and maybe this issue was fixed in PS3. Does anyone else have an issue with how the labored chuff effect works? Being that the rocker switch on the DCS remote only activates the labored chuff as long as you hold it down and when you do that you cannot increase the speed of you locomotive, it seams pretty useless. When a locomotive is getting started and...
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Rookie with questions on a tmcc to proto 2/3swap

Jr0185 ·
hey guys I'm a rookie here and I have a dilemma and with that comes a lot of questions about the possibility of doing it. I don't know if it can be done nor do I have the experience to do it. But here it goes and my apologies for the long post that's about to ensue. Okay so I have a late 90s Amtrak premier p42 o gauge engine. I read that it originally came with proto1 but I bought this used from a shop that had installed a tmcc and what I've come to find out is either an old school f unit or...
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Want to Swap sound chips please help

Jr0185 ·
hey guys so I want to do something but have no idea if it will work or if it can be done. And if it can be done, how to go about it. Forgive me as it is a bit of a lengthy explanation. okay, so I have a mth premier Amtrak p42 genesis from the late 90s I got used from eBay installed with tmcc. The owner unbeknownst to me, took out ps1 and put in tmcc. All well and fine but it's got either a f unit or a gp sound chip in it and it just dosent sound right. So I want to swap it for protosound 2.0...
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MTH PS1 Big Boy

Hakim Gibson ·
ATTENTION!!!!!!!! I am currently in search of an MTH Premier 20 Dash Big Boy with PROTOSOUND ONE!!!!!!!! You know the late 90's version.
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MTH 3 Rail O Gauge Premier Big Boy PROTOSOUND 1 Needed asap.

Hakim Gibson ·
I'm in search of an MTH 3 Rail O Gauge Premier 20 DASH Big Boy PROTOSOUND 1 Needed. Please contact me and let me know your prices please I'm willing to buy.
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Does my MTH Premier Loco have sound? How do I check?

MrAllied ·
I'm an old Lionel guy, with not much experience with MTH. I have an older MTH Premier Series ATSF Northern steam loco. It has the road number 2921. I have no box or instruction sheet for it. How do I know if it is equipped with ProtoSound? ProtoSound II? Here is a photo of the underside. Any help or pointers would be most appreciated. Thank you.
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Want to upgrade sound board on my MTH 30-2003-0 Amtrak Dash-8 Diesel Locomotive

MrBoboKitn ·
My sons and I are just getting into O-Guage railways. We have a Lionel 2-8-4 Berkshire steam locomotive that my kids adore but it requires O72 curves to safely operate (with a 3 and 5 year old on control) so I have acquired a complete Amtrak train set but the horn in the MTH loco is horrible! I would like to know if it is possible to install a better sound board? The box states that it will accept "plug in Proto Sounds" but I cannot find any source for the PS1 system (we are operating with...
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Wanted: MTH 20-3021-1, Premier 4-8-8-4 Big Boy, ProtoSound 1

anender ·
Looking for an MTH Premier line 4-8-8-4 Big Boy #4012, item# 20-3021-1. ProtoSound 1.0, conditions ranging from C-7 to C-10. Anything helps, thanks in advance.
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Wanted: MTH 20-3017-1, 2-6-6-6 Allegheny, Protosound 1

anender ·
Looking for an MTH Premier line 2-6-6-6 Allegheny #1604, item# 20-3017-1. ProtoSound 1.0, conditions ranging from C-7 to C-10. Anything helps, thanks in advance. Take Action
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Wanted: MTH Premier 20-3002-1, 4-6-6-4 Challenger #3985, ProtoSound 1.0

anender ·
Looking for an MTH Premier line 4-6-6-4 Challenger #3985, item# 20-3002-1. ProtoSound 1.0, conditions ranging from C-7 to C-10. Anything helps, thanks in advance.
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Thinking of getting MTH DCS for a small layout. Need questions answered.

Gondolawillie ·
I have always run my layouts conventionally, but I will be putting together a small (4 x6 or 4 x8) layout using K-line snaptrack. I'd like to run my 2 Protosounds 3.0 engines on this layout. I am thinking of getting an MTH DCS system for it so that I don't have to wire blocks. I will be using an MTH z-1000 transformer. I have some questions. 1. Which MTH DCS pieces will I need to purchase? 2. Can power from the DCS just be sent to the locos and not to the track (My kids CNJ Lionchief set...
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Need Help with Original Protosound GG-1

kennyb ·
Hello!I got this Protosound (1.0)GG-1 about a month ago.I took the shell off immediately to remove the white demon battery,and it was just kinda setting on top of the speaker,so I never really figured out where it’s supposed to go. It ran great without the shell on,but I noticed a purple wire that was loose that sure looks like it belongs someplace!!I put some electrical tape on the wire,and placed the shell back on. It ran super,but I had no headlights.I have ALL of the other lights...
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ProtoSound 1 slave motor driver

JohnActon ·
Is the ProtoSound 1 slave motor driver board compatible with a PS2 3 or 5v board ? j
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HELP!!! Need Part for Zephyr Headlight!!

kennyb ·
Hello Everyone!! I need to know the part# ,or if anyone can get me 1 of the Headlight Covers for an Early Protosound 2.0 5 volt board Pioneer Zephyr. There is no info for this model on the website,so I need your guys wisdom on this. The cover is the same as the one on the rear of the engine,it is just turned upside down for the front Headlight. I also need to know the part number to ask Midge for the actual bulbs or lamps that light the Headlight,as they are blown out. I can actually see...
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ProtoSound 2. 5V boards Premier vs RailKing

JohnActon ·
Did MTH use the same PS2.5v boards in their Premier and RailKing steam locos ? j
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MTH Engines & Boards FOR Sale

kennyb ·
Hello,I am putting the hobby on the back burner for awhile,and selling some of my collection to buy some music gear. Everything is in Excellent Cosmetic and Operating Condition,and well taken care of.I ran these engines on a consistent basis,you will not be disappointed if you buy one. All Boards were purchased from a well known MTH tech, and were tested good. I cannot guarantee boards due to nature of the product,but will guarantee the engines to run as advertised. You can purchase the...
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MTH Protosound 32 Steam upgrade board from the 50-1911 kit and PS2 5V questions

Jetguy ·
So I got a bunch of boards from an eBay auction and had some questions. I've got moderate experience at this point and an EE background, plenty of test equipment and MTH parts on hand. So, problem one is that out of 3 protosound 32 steam upgrade boards, 2 in that pile seam dead in my testing thus far. I've had the sad experience of seeing a PS3 board die from a 5V short to frame so I kind of know the symptoms and expectations and also, while I do surface mount rework, this is just another...
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MTH RK GS-4 Protosound 1 QSI no sound or movement

hasslerk ·
Since you all were very helpful in helping me fix my K-Line VRE FP59PHi, I figured I would try another one. This time I have an early generation Railking GS-4 with Protosound 1 / QSI boards that I bought new when it first came out. This engine ran without issue until just recently when it just stopped dead, and lost sound. I have had a BCR in it almost since those hit the market. When I power it up, I get the two bells, and no sound. On shutdown, I get the single bell. I also do not get any...
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New approach for computer control of model trains

mbehrend ·
Hello everyone. I am developing software to allow simultaneous control of multiple devices from a single program. Devices can be controlled by: 1. Complex user defined virtual control panels 2. Hardware controllers connected via USB or network 3. User defined computer automation of various types It is browser based, so can be accessed from tablet, cell phone, pc, etc. I'm using a model train layout to demonstrate some of the features in a youtube video. https://youtu.be/Rymyw6IiZkQ The...
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ProtoSound Upgrade

Aegis21 ·
Is a plug in protosound system able to get a protosound 2 or 3 board? I have a RK-2501 Pennsylvaina Tuscan Red 5-Stripe GG-1 Unit that appears new in box. Any hope it can get off the conventional road so to speak? Thanks in Advance John
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20-20091-1 CSX ES44 Protosound 2.0 (used) (SOLD)

Aem7s4lyfe ·
I'm currently selling a used CSX ES44 Protosound 2.0 engine (20-20091-1). Item has been used on my layout. I can provide pictures of the engine. It has currently been in storage due to me taking my layout down. I am asking $250 which does not include shipping. Buyer must cover the shipping cost. I only accept paypal. Please email me if interested at patterson.keith88@gmail.com
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ProtoSound engine won't move forwards

VonFrank ·
Brand new problem with one of my old ProtoSound 1.0 engines. Started it up today and began to run it forwards. Before it really picked up speed, the engine suddenly stopped but did not lose power. Confused, I interrupted power to switch the engine into 'neutral' and then did so again to go into reverse. This all happened as it should and the engine moved a few inches backwards until I switched back into neutral. When I attempted to move the engine forwards again, it remained still. No amount...
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Re: Proto-Sound 3 Powerports?

gunrunnerjohn ·
Here you go.
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Re: Proto-Sound 3 Powerports?

Copter ·
gunrunnerjohn, I really appreciate your knowledge on the matter. I plan to purchase the components you suggested this evening and begin construction. Thank you again for all of your help!
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Re: Proto-Sound 3 Powerports?

gunrunnerjohn ·
No problem, we look forward to the video.
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Re: Proto-Sound 3 Powerports?

Copter ·
You got it. Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn: No problem, we look forward to the video.
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Re: Proto-Sound 3 Powerports?

GGG ·
John, What about the inductor, or have you done this with no degradation to the dcs signal? G
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Re: Proto-Sound 3 Powerports?

gunrunnerjohn ·
Crap, I totally forgot about the 33uh choke! Put that in front of the diode in the hot side rail!
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Hudson J1e ·
Originally Posted by Bill McBride: @Jeff: The drop in wheel sets sound great. I can work with the pilot. How hard is it to remove the lobster-claw couplers from the truck-pilot assembly? Is it screws or does it require some metal cutting with a Dremel? BTW the part # for the 4-axle trucks is MTH part 20-89008 and its features are listed by MTH as: (4) Scale Wheel Wheel Sets Insulated Axles All-Metal Wheels & Axles Fully Assembled, Ready-to-Drop-In Bill, I am looking at my MTH catalog...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Bill McBride ·
Thanks. I took the number from Sethian's OST article. I am glad you set me straight before I ordered a set.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Austin Bill ·
Not exactly on topic, but, I successfully ran my PS3 scale wheeled Rio Grande GP-35 on our club 3 rail layout pulling a short string of reefers. I really didn't expect a scale flanged engine to take the curves on TUBULAR track. But, it was no problem. Ran fine for quite a while at a decent speed. No sweat. The club layout has K-Line Shadow Rail TUBULAR track. That particular loop of track has 120 inch diameter curves which I'm sure helped. Also it behaved on our Ross numbered switches as I...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
@AustinBill, that is great information and I think it is totally on point. While this thread started as a 3 to 2 rail conversation, the performance of the PS3 is a key component of that. The main reason I am looking as these Protoscale 3-2 and Protosound 3 engines is because they can be 2 railed and run on either DCC or DC for my home and club. Great experiement, thanks for trying that out. I think the combined flexibility built in to these engines in Protoscale and Protosound systems is a...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Mike DeBerg ·
Jeff, The locos look awesome! I do think you need more BNSF hoppers! Originally Posted by Jeff78rr: Here are a couple of my MTH engines that I converted to fixed pilots and full length handrails, an SD70ACe and AC4400. There are also step backs inside each area where the steps are- . I also changed out the sill stripes to a yellow that Microscale is selling that is close to reflective as I can find. I've done my fleet using these... more pics of a how-to coming as I do the next set. Although...
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
The board is truncating the link, it is the full length including the question mark, let try to insert it again here... " http://www.mthtrains.com/searc...r_search/Proto-Scale 3-2 3-Rail/2-Rail Conversion Capable Proto-Sound 3.0? " Chris
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

Martin H ·
Read this.
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Re: MTH 3 to 2 Rail Convertible Locos w Proto Sound 3.0

newtoO ·
Ok, the board is still truncating the link, copy and paste the link in between the quotes and insert in a new browser window address bar and it will work. Sorry, don't know why it is cutting of the link. Chris
 
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