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Re: Weaver G1611-L Erie Lackawanna 20" Passenger 2 Car Sleeper/Coach Add-On Set Wanted To Buy

Chas ·
I would also consider any other Weaver single coaches, diners, sleeper or dome cars for the right price.
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Re: Weaver G1611-L Erie Lackawanna 20" Passenger 2 Car Sleeper/Coach Add-On Set Wanted To Buy

Chas ·
Still looking for these for possible York pickup?
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Re: Weaver G1611-L Erie Lackawanna 20" Passenger 2 Car Sleeper/Coach Add-On Set Wanted To Buy

Chas ·
Looking for a lead if anyone is selling these at York?
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Weaver G1611-L Erie Lackawanna 20" Passenger 2 Car Sleeper/Coach Add-On Set Wanted To Buy

Chas ·
I believe this is a sleeper/coach set with the green tinted window strips. Here are some pictures of the sleeper and coach from the set.
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Sleeper dome question

pittsburghrailfan ·
Hello, I know that several railroads had or have domed sleeper cars. That meaning, cars with an upper level dome deck and sleeping accommodations down below. Did any railroad put sleeping accommodations actually on the dome deck? A sort of "Sleep under the stars" roomette or bedroom.
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Arch-Bar 3370 Outlaw Car - A Sleeper Postwar Collectible?

RetroMikado ·
Hello to all my fellow Lionel collectors! I am curious to see who else owns an archbar truck version of the 3370 Outlaw car. This car is almost never seen on the market, I've never seen one at York, Google shows only AAR versions, only seen it in one non-train store and on ebay one time (mine ;D). Despite its apparent scarcity, it seems either no one knows or cares about this variation, despite the popularity of the Lionel Postwar General sets that the car was made to go with. The details on...
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UP Sleepers

GenesisFan99 ·
Does anyone know if UP's Pacific-series (Budd 10-6) have been made in O scale yet? I know GGD is releasing Budd 10-6 sleepers in SP colors, but part of me worries that there's some SP-specific detail that would prevent it from being a repaint candidate.
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Anyone have a photo of MTH RailKing #208 City of Kokomo Sleeper

MarxTinMan ·
Hello gang, I'm in search of MTH's RailKing set# 30-67806 60' streamlined sleeper and diner set. Specifically the #208 City of Kokomo sleeper which is a model of an actual Pullman from the 50s. Would anyone have one for sale or even a photo of one? MTH's site has a photo of the City of Erie car instead of the Kokomo car in this listing.
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Re: Arch-Bar 3370 Outlaw Car - A Sleeper Postwar Collectible?

das boot ·
Nice car, based on Greenberg's description, the "arch-bar" 3370 version was used has a component for General sets (as you stated above). I cannot say how rare or unusual, but I did have a couple "arch" examples in my previous postwar collection. enjoy your trains...
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Re: Arch-Bar 3370 Outlaw Car - A Sleeper Postwar Collectible?

RetroMikado ·
Thank you for your input! I'm glad to hear you had a few
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Re: Arch-Bar 3370 Outlaw Car - A Sleeper Postwar Collectible?

franktrain ·
AAR trucks on mine, fun car!
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Re: Arch-Bar 3370 Outlaw Car - A Sleeper Postwar Collectible?

das boot ·
Now you have me thinking, another "look for item" at the October York show, maybe add a 3370 "arch" to my present postwar inventory. This hobby is always fun in a humorous insane way.
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Re: Arch-Bar 3370 Outlaw Car - A Sleeper Postwar Collectible?

RetroMikado ·
Glad to see so many cars in good condition
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Re: Arch-Bar 3370 Outlaw Car - A Sleeper Postwar Collectible?

RetroMikado ·
Please do try to find one; they seem to be nearly non-existent at York. Every one I saw last year had AARs!
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Re: Union Pacific Pullman Sleeper Interior Upgrade, K-Line Passenger Car 1305, K4690

Hancock52 ·
First of all, I am amazed at your commitment to prototypical accuracy and at the speed with which you are getting through a whole series of cars. Excellent job all around. Second, I have been there - I don't mean doing a 3rail sleeping car but starting over when the result of detailing an interior is not what you want. FWIW, my theory is that 3rail passenger cars, even the 21" versions, are really only a representation of the real thing, not a true scale model, so everything we do with them...
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Re: Union Pacific Pullman Sleeper Interior Upgrade, K-Line Passenger Car 1305, K4690

T.Albers ·
Thanks Hancock, I have 6 passenger cars in this K-Line set. In the beginning I only planned on posting the RPO car. But after all the positive comments from this O-Gauge forum on the RPO car it gave me the encouragement to post the rest of the cars on the forum. I have been an unregistered guest on this forum for over 2-years but only joined last month because I wanted to give back to the O-gauge community. I have seen posts from beginners like me to 1/48 scale master builders in this forum.
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Re: UP Sleepers

Number 90 ·
Good point. I missed the opportunity to have a Santa Fe Pine-series Budd sleeper because I failed to act on the 1951 Super Chief, and would be glad to have an opportunity to correct that bad decision. And Union Pacific Pacific-series sleepers were numerous and very much in evidence on UPRR trains of the 1960's and '70's. Maybe we should have brought this up with Scott Mann when he announced the Sunset . Oh, well . . .
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GenesisFan99 ·
If you're saying what I think you're saying, I guess I'll have to wait for Scott to do it. Maybe someone who knows something about the Sunset Limited and SP can answer the question about road-specific details.
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Re: UP Sleepers

GenesisFan99 ·
Thank you! I really appreciate it. Getting an answer from a knowledgeable person is very helpful as the extra 10-6 sleepers for the Sunset Limited will probably sell out.
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GenesisFan99 ·
Yes, that is very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to get an answer. I will wait to see if GGD does them in the future.
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GG1 4877 ·
The other issues include Budd fluting is which is not universal, window patterns and corresponding floor plans, and details such as truck type. The SP Sunset Limited has the same fluting as the Congressional which was done by GGD several years back now. Name plates and other details are add on so they aren't that much of an issue. UP's Pacific series cars were built to Pullman plan 9522 between 1949 and 1950. There is this option of course though in the a prototype for everything ...
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Re: UP Sleepers

GenesisFan99 ·
I did see that alternative option but I would prefer to have an exact prototype for what I want to do, which is get an accurate base for a Pacific Sands repaint. Pacific Sands is used in charter service on Amtrak trains near me.
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Re: UP Sleepers

bob2 ·
This level of detail is usually of interest on the 3-rail scale forum. I have a number of Budd cars in different configurations, but was unaware of this one. That really does appear to be a larger letterboard than other Budd cars. If you really have to have an exact car you could start with a Mac Shops extrusion and remove a corrugation or two above the window area. A lot of work - i did such a thing exactly once, using an end mill.
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GenesisFan99 ·
That is an idea however I lack the talent and equipment required to do something like that. I'm also still shopping for a custom painter who would have to paint the extrusion or repaint a correct model. Being the rivet counter I am I do want to have an exact model. I only ever compromise when there is little to no likelihood a correct model will be made. That said, I think Golden Gate Depot may do the correct model in the future as they've done Pullman Std 10-6 sleepers in UP colors before,...
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Re: UP Sleepers

GG1 4877 ·
There is always a chance that we would run these at GGD. The Pullman Standard 10-6's and 4-4-2's though were generic cars to be able to offer enough paint schemes to make the run justifiable. More likely, these might work well in a UP "Cities" set. Amtrak purchased 43 of these so there are two road names. I wonder what other roads used this particular car? If there are enough road names, the single car approach may work too as it did in the Slumbercoaches.
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Re: UP Sleepers

rdunniii ·
I've discussed doing these in brass with Scott along with other passenger cars to come up with the minimum. We've discussed doing 6-6-4s, SP 3/4 domes and Viewliners as possible other cars. These would be comparable to Wasatch cars. If we can come up with 50 reservations for five different cars to sell at ~$800 each Scott seems OK with that.
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marty track ·
lets have Scott put in on the web site and see how many orders we can get I'm in
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Re: UP Sleepers

GenesisFan99 ·
To clarify-does 5 different cars mean 5 different paint schemes priced at $800 per car or does that mean a 5 car set? If it is $800 per car, I understand that it's brass but GGD's brass full domes are cheaper than that per car. To save a bit of money, aluminum would be nice. If priced reasonably I would immediately reserve a UP 6-6-4 and UP Budd 10-6. I know it's a numbers game and the unfortunate thing is as much as I'd like to purchase sets, I can never hope to afford one anytime soon. I...
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Re: UP Sleepers

prrhorseshoecurve ·
I too am with Genesisfan99. At a $1,000.00 per car is too steep! Even $800.00 per car - with Roller Bearings. But a 5 car set of Amtrak Viewliners for $800.00 total -I Am IN! Still Waiting for my GGD Amtrak Superdome to convince me otherwise! I hope any future run of PRR Solarium cars don't cost that much either!
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Re: UP Sleepers

rdunniii ·
I obviously was not clear. I need to come up with $200K worth of cars. There is simply not the market for any of the alternative individual cars presented that comes up with that minimum. And without that minimum it will not happen. Cheaper cars requires a higher number of cars.
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Re: UP Sleepers

bob2 ·
Being 16 and popping for $800 3-rail cars is not a common occurrence. I think when I was 16 I was dreaming of building a 1/2 scale F9F-5 that I could fly. Reality sets in about half a decade later. I have been a 2-railer since I was ten. I am delighted to say that the K-Line 21" UP cars are more than realistic enough for me. I do have an Armour Yellow Budd car somewhere - I will try for an iPad shot for you Friday.
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86TA355SR ·
Been following for the last few days. The Wasatch cars are awesome and if you've never saw a set in person, they'll change your perspective on accurate UP passenger cars. Not for the faint of heart, but incredible models. The Seacrest collection offered at least one of each car produced. Still kicking myself... In the meantime, my K Line 21" cars serve the purpose until another run of accurate UP cars are produced. RDUNNIII, Just curious, would a cheaper medium, such as Al or ABS plastic...
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Re: Sleeper dome question

aterry11 ·
For what I know the dome area was always seating..
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Number 90 ·
No sleeping under the stars unless you fell asleep in one of the dome seats after dark. All sleeping accommodations were at floor level.
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Two23 ·
The domed area seems to be premium space. I think VIA in Canada has a nearly refurbished car that has private rooms in a domed car, but the dome is separate and is a community space. Kent in SD
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Re: Sleeper dome question

jaygee ·
The homemade Espee domes has long sofas, where you could stretch out after dark, and kinda get the effect of a true sleeper dome. In the summer of '69, I did just that going from Oakland to Ogden, on the City of Everywhere. Great sleep, and nobody kicked me out !
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Re: UP Sleepers

GenesisFan99 ·
Well the thing with Wasatch stuff is figuring out how to 3 rail it, and do so without doing anything permanent. I'd try to find them if 3 railing them wasn't so much of a hassle and the price wasn't so high. Well I guess I'll just wait for somebody to make these cars. Pacific Sands, Bend, and Cape will stay on the wishlist.
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Re: UP Sleepers

Former Member ·
You’re going to 3 rail a $1300 passenger car? Some people would string you up for that. Not me, I’m not a rivet counter and close enough works for me but you might find it much easier to compromise than it is to get money for such endeavors.
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Re: UP Sleepers

86TA355SR ·
I bought some high end 2R locomotives to convert to 3R many years ago. When I took them out of the box, I just couldn't do it...they were works of art and stunning. That opened a whole new world of the hobby to me-2R O SCALE! Perhaps that'll occur for you. The other factor was converting a $4,000 MSRP model into a $100 model...
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GG1 4877 ·
Richard is well connected with 3rd Rail already.
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Former Member ·
I think Richard has been to the Chicago March Meet, I'm pretty sure I met him there. Or maybe that was some other train hippie i met
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GenesisFan99 ·
Well I like correct details, full scale proportions, and as high quality as I can afford, both in build quality and quality control. While 2 rail has exactly that, I don't have the patience for converting everything I have to 2 rail. It makes far more economic sense to convert the minority to the majority. I also don't have the space either, and haven't heard about any 2-Rail clubs with driving to. So if they'll string me up for that, bring on the torches and pitchforks.
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Re: Union Pacific, Western Star, Pullman interior upgrade, K-Line, K4690

Hancock52 ·
Great work yet again and thanks for the curtain and sign graphic. That original K-Line interior surprises me because they also made some more detailed ones that found their way into 21" cars even though they are only 18" length. Although this is ostensibly a Lionel sleeping car interior it comes from K-Line parts: But this is not even close to what you have done. Sleeping cars have so many internal partitions that duplicating the prototypes is a real challenge, especially in Lionel and...
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Re: Union Pacific, Western Star, Pullman interior upgrade, K-Line, K4690

T.Albers ·
You are right, that’s definitely a K-Line interior. I only have the 18” passenger cars and all of mine have came with all white plastic interiors from the factory. It’s nice to see some of the premium 21” cars came fully painted.
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Re: Union Pacific, Western Star, Pullman interior upgrade, K-Line, K4690

T.Albers ·
Hancock52, did you convert your silver Texas Special passenger cars to overhead LED’s?
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Re: Union Pacific, Western Star, Pullman interior upgrade, K-Line, K4690

Hancock52 ·
I did not convert the first car of this aluminum set I did (the observation car) to LEDs because I mistakenly thought that the original incandescent lighting was in a ceiling moulding that reproduced the original car. I am sure that you know the part I mean, which is nicely detailed. I adapted it to the additional lighting I installed in the car, which was all LEDs from Evan Designs with a GRJ constant voltage power supply. I later learned that that the ceiling part is generic in K-Line...
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Re: Union Pacific, Western Star, Pullman interior upgrade, K-Line, K4690

T.Albers ·
Yes, I see what you mean. The first part shown below was K-Line’s overhead lighting strip I removed from a 2005 passenger car. The bottom part was K-Line’s lighting strip removed from a 1999 passenger car. The 1999 version had 12 bulbs. I heard those old incandescent bulbs could pull as much as 75 milliamps each. If that’s correct, then it’s drawing .9 amps per passenger car. Times ten passenger cars and that’s it’s 9 amps. Yikes! The newer K-Line boards do have the nice ceiling details you...
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Union Pacific, Western Star, Pullman interior upgrade, K-Line, K4690

T.Albers ·
I thought I had finished doing interior upgrades to my K-Line Union Pacific City of Los Angeles passenger train. I completed the interiors of a Rail Post Office, REA-Baggage car, Dome Diner, 5-2-2 Pullman Sleeper, Dome Coach and two Observation cars. That was until I found a great deal on a 18" K-Line Western Star 4-12 Pullman sleeper. As other have said in this forum, I think this hobby might be addictive. Before I began, I went back through my other post of the problems when upgrading a...
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Union Pacific Pullman Sleeper Interior Upgrade, K-Line Passenger Car 1305, K4690

T.Albers ·
All was going well with upgrading my K-Line Union Pacific semi-scale passenger car fleet until I got to this Ocean Sunset sleeper part# K4690-31305. I thought this sleeper car was going to be easy. All I had to do was follow the same formula I used when upgrading my other passenger car interiors. Step.1, Start by removing the existing K-line interior from the shell. Step.2, Separating the benches seats and passengers from the plastic base. Step.3, Put down a new floor and start making walls.
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