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Batteries for Legacy Controller

Terry Danks ·
My hand control went "dead." Batteries were the originals, branded "GP." Rechargeble NiMH rated at 1.2v. Legacy is about 9 months old. I tried non-rechargeble Rayovac  alkaline AAs, rated at 1.5v (Not in the charging base, of course!). Then some rechargebles I have on hand. Also Rayovac. NiMH rated at 1.2v. Both kinds bring the controller to life, but it isn't working "properly" with either! For example, it won't completely turn off. Holding the power button down blanks the screen but...
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Command Control FasTrack Switch Issue

Apples55 ·
Hope I'm putting this in the right Forum. I have a six track yard which uses a series of O-72 Command Control switches. One of the switches, a wye, is giving me agita!!! Using my Cab-2, I can throw the switch, but when I add the switch to several of my routes (I set up each track in the yard as a separate route), it doesn't fire. The other switches in the route fire as expected. Has anyone seen this issue before??? Is there anything in the switch that I should be looking at??? Thanks.
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Control Panel for floor layout.

Pete in Kansas ·
Anyone ever make one for a floor layout? I put the one in the picture together to hold my Lionel Z and the 440C and 439 control Panels. The top lifts up so I can hide terminal strips and whatever else I need to and keep it somewhat neat. I haven't wired it yet, just running the trains with it but it keeps everything together and looks good. If anyone else had made anything similar could you please post pictures?    Thanks     Pete
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automatic train control wiring question

Thomas C ·
I have an 82N semaphore and a 137 station; both have the stop control. I need internal wiring diagrams for both. Can't seem to find the details I need to connect the internal wiring that has come apart on both.
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Any Make O Gauge Engine Upgrade to TMCC with RailSound 4

Jamestown Trains ·
All,   Lionel has made it clear that they will not be issuing licenses for companies to make an after factory Legacy Control/Sound upgrade kit.  The Electric Railroad systems have proven to be excellent over the past 4 years or so we have...
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Four channel wireless controller for operation of model railroad accessories

pro hobby ·
Four channel wireless controller for operation of model railroad accessories This is a handy wireless control module for independent control of up to 4 channels. The self contained module is powered from 12 volts DC. A 4 channel controller FOB permits independent control of up to 4 different circuits. A jumper can be set to permit ON OFF control using 1 button. This controller is now used to operate LEDs installed on a custom built O scale construction equipment service building. (photo...
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Genset Switcher (non Vision Line) Starts Up by itself

Stubai ·
I have a United States Army Genset Switcher (6-28382) which is not the Vision Line Genset. I just took it out of the box and loaded it into my Legacy Control System.  As I was testing it, I noticed that after a certain period of inactivity it will shut down by itself (at least the rail sounds do) but it will automatically restart after another period of inactivity from the CAB.  While it's shut down, I can hear a faint beeping sound coming from the engine which increases in...
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Has anyone used toggle switches & LED's with the DZ2500? SUCCESS !!!

Don(Cerritos) ·
SUCCESS !!!  I am going to do something different (for me), I am going to post here on my first post (which described my problem).  What the conclusion was and how it was resolved.  (Trying to minimize the amount of reading needed to understand, really want to share this with others.) I was trying to connect 34 Ross Switch motors up on a layout so that I could;  1.  Have independent toggle switches on a Control Panel with corresponding LEDs for each switch indicating...
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DZ2500 Switch Machines - Great !

Don(Cerritos) ·
Just wanted to share some info regarding Ross Switches and the Z2500. I just finished installing 34 of them! Initially I was very apprehensive regarding the 2500 as opposed to the Z1000. Totally wrong! I have been able to incorporate the Z2500 to function on a Legacy based system WITHOUT the use of the Lionel SC2 controllers. (A savings of 34/4 x $120 each). Simply by purchasing the Z-Stuff Data Driver Module, $20. Only 1 is required for an infinite number of switches! This module will...
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Fastrack uncoupling track

Ken M ·
Can you control the uncoupling track with the SC2 & can you use 18v to power the uncoupling track? The online manual says 10-12 volts. That seems awful low considering track power is 18v. Thank You Ken M
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How can an Atlas slide button switch controller be wired to control a Lionel O gauge switch?

decoynh ·
I have tried various combinations to get an Atlas switch button controller to work Lionel 031 & 072 switches. The switches work with standard lever controllers. I've checked the slide button controller with an atlas switch and it works. I'm definitely missing something. I'm powering the switches with a separate 12v power, i.e. not track power.
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Need Help Hooking up signal to Command Control Switch

Paulie D ·
I am looking to hook up dwarf and bridge signals directly to my Fastrack command control switches. Is this possible and does anyone know what I should wire where. Thanks All!
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Inexpensive wireless remote controller for model railroads

pro hobby ·
Inexpensive wireless remote controller for model railroads This is an inexpensive controller that is used to trip a 12vdc circuit. It is used as part of an emergency stop circuit for my model railroad. The controller uses a FOB to activate the control circuit that is housed in a small power distribution box. Activating the button on the FOB trips the emergency stop circuit (not shown). The controller is used in momentary contact mode. The wireless controller shown was purchased on EBAY for...
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Is DCS compatible with Stop & Wait Block Power Control ?

Dick Autz ·
I want to put two PS3 engines on my “old school” Block Power Controlled layout using Insulated Track Switches. Once an Engine stops to wait on a unpowered block it needs a manual restart before it will move again. When Engine 1 stops like this, Engine2 is bound to come into a dead block and stop also. How can I make my layout work with these great new Engines and DCS? Using Conventional Engines my layout works well with 6 Relay controlled blocks, and 6 track switches, Engines set in Forward,...
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K-line Plymouth-Upgrade advice?

pittsburghrailfan ·
I'm considering upgrading my K-Line USS Steel Plymouth to Command Control. Has anyone ever attempted this? Is it possible to convert the engine to DCS, or is it better to just do TMCC? Is there even space in the locomotive?
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

bmoran4 ·
Did the circuit breaker on the ZW itself trip, indicated by the left red lamp illuminating? It is self resetting so by the time you moved everything to B+C, it may have reset. These its not uncommon to be disappointed with the old thermal breakers. They are not difficult to replace if you are comfortable with a soldering iron.
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

pennsyfan ·
Thanks for the reply. No the breaker didn't trip, as I said the B & C still have power.
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

CP BOB ·
I had similar issues with mine many years ago. I lost power on A and C. The first time it was the handles and Lionel fixed the problem. Second time, A was dead. The board went bad. Lionel replaced the board and it has been working fine for the last 7 years. Hope you have a simpler fix, Bob
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

bmoran4 ·
I just realized this is for a "modern" ZW whereas my advice would be for a real postwar ZW. For others to better help you, you should indicate if this is a ZW-C, a ZW-L or whatever.
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

pennsyfan ·
CP Bob, Did yours work after a reset? This one works until you shut down, then it has to be reset for next use.
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

CP BOB ·
Yes, I had that issue also. But, thankfully all has worked correctly after the board was replaced. Bob
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Moonman ·
Just out of curiosity, what's the date code on the bottom of the bricks?
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pennsyfan ·
I'll check and get back later; possibly next year. I'm on my way to the clubhouse now with a tried and true PW ZW. When I take the bricks down I'll get the code. This is another rush job; dinner at six; another member has guests coming tomorrow. Gotta get it done.
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

shawn ·
You mentioned something about a command base? When the base is on the b and c output will come up on to the level you have set. If at zero when moved they will work as normal. The a and D outputs will come up off. The movement of the handles will give output on those post. In command mode there are basically 4 power masters inside the transformer. You must address the outputs...tr 1 etc. out of the box they are 1-4. Once adrressed you can turn up the power to the max point that you have the...
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

pennsyfan ·
The date code is 2007 4 1 on both. Any significance other than it's April Fools day?
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

pennsyfan ·
Thanks for the information; but I didn't experience what your getting at. We first connected the two separate loops; 1 to A and 1 to D and then connected the command base to common. When we powered up we had TMCC control on both tracks with out a problem. When the problem arose out of thin air; A & D were dead and B & C were normal. We moved the track connections to B & C, the TMCC didn't care . We ran that way for two weeks without a problem. Then Lionel said to reset the ZW. A...
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

MrMoe50 ·
Not sure if this will help, but it might be worth a try. The ZW-C does communicate with Legacy, you can program it to control the handle outputs via the Cab-2 by assigned track numbers. B and C come up where the handles are set, and A and D come up at 0 no matter where the handles are set. Try powering on the ZW-C first, wait a couple of seconds, the power on the TMCC base. I realize you are running TMCC not Legacy, so I am not sure if it behaves the same.
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

shawn ·
In conventional the handles function as normal. But, when the command base is on the zw does the following. A and d off. B and c on. So, if you leave the b and c handles at 18 volts. When you turn the zw back on when the command base is powered first. (Make sure of this) Those outputs will be 18volts... tHe a and d outputs will be off regardless where the handles are set. so, let's assume you are running all command. That you are running engines on a and d and accessories on b and c. You...
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Gentlemen, Bob did the correct thing he took the good old ZW Transformer and started using it, IMO he should just pick up another restored ZW from Jim here on the OGR, add them both to the layout permanently, and get rid of all his bricks. Oops did I say that out loud! PCRR/Dave
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

Moonman ·
The significance of the date code is that it indicates the powerhouse 180 are wired backwards at the factory and are out of phase. try switching the A & U to the tracks and see how it behaves. The Lionel notice and fix .pdf are attached.
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pennsyfan ·
Dave, I've got about 6 PW ZWs, I thought that the new one would be better for the new releases; however I forgot that when you add a modern toy train manufacturer to their Chinese comrades you get high prices, cheap unskilled labor, substandard parts, and no warranty after a year, even if you just bought it.
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

pennsyfan ·
Carl, Thanks!
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shawn ·
He would see that problem going between different power blocks with a engine. This would put a short on the transformer tripping over current red light...then possibly tripping the breaker. It sounds like it also worked before. He never stated if he has tried it without a command base powered!
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Re: Lionel ZW Controller and Powerhouse needs constant reset

pennsyfan ·
Just to clarify, there aren't any crossovers, only two independent loops. I never saw the traditional ZW trip lamp light except during the reset.
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Re: Inexpensive wireless remote controller for model railroads

stan2004 ·
The relay module can be set to toggle mode or momentary operation mode. Toggle means each button press toggles the relay on and off. Momentary means the relay is on as long as the button is held. If installing in rolling stock for remote activation, each mode has its applications. For a few dollars more you can get fobs with more buttons and relay modules with ability to decode addressing so you can independently (or simultaneously) activate multiple remote relays.
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Re: Is DCS compatible with Stop & Wait Block Power Control ?

Dick Autz ·
G. On the speed mismatch... I have MTH Diesel SD60 and Camel Back Steam engines which are worst case and I found I have a track problem where the Camel Back looses traction with more than 3 cars being pulled. Working on that one. When using conventional mode I have found that I can't depend much on where the Engine stops each time at the same speed when I encounter a insulated track switch. Using an older Lionel conventional it also stops at a different position. Maybe I'm being too...
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Re: Question About the Lionel Conventional K4

ES44AC ·
No one?
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Re: K-line Plymouth-Upgrade advice?

NYC Z-MAN ·
Dan, Thanks for the like on my old upgrade post! I'm sorry I didn't shoot any photos during the upgrade. I gutted the cab of figures and stood the board up vertically. I used a piece of card stock to insulate the back side and shield the solder side from view. I left the smoke unit in, but not wired for command control. I'm certain the unit would need a different heat element as is smokes to much at command track voltage. My key factor for success was patience. I spread this out over a few...
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Re: K-line Plymouth-Upgrade advice?

gunrunnerjohn ·
Actually, the TMCC board will provide it half-wave track power, and it works fine that way. The same smoke unit is in the K-Line Porter, and I upgraded that and wired it's smoke unit directly to the smoke output of the MC-II board. For the Plymouth, I'm seriously tempted to replace the smoke unit with the MTH HO smoke unit and try to fit the MC-II in the body and sound in the cab.
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Re: K-line Plymouth-Upgrade advice?

fl9turbo2 ·
i had mine done by train america studios many years ago it runs great with smoke but the inside of the cab is were the electronics are and they put new lights in the loco due to the voltage they send me the inside of the cab were the enginneer is i get alot of people loving what they done just wish they still sold the parts i want to do more of them
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gunrunnerjohn ·
Did they put sound in yours?
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fl9turbo2 ·
no sound just tmcc i could turn off the smoke unit and fire the rear coupler and turn off the headlight
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gunrunnerjohn ·
I want to figure out how to get sound into it.
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NYC Z-MAN ·
GRJ, Good to know about the half wave. Thanks. However, I think the bd. I used was feature set for a blinking strobe as it came from a Trackmobile. I can't remember if it had an extra output to do smoke or not. Good luck on your plan!
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Re: K-line Plymouth-Upgrade advice?

gunrunnerjohn ·
There's no way any of the current DCS stuff would have a chance of fitting into the Plymouth! You could tow it around in a car behind it and probably do OK. I have one that I'm also going to upgrade, I'll be using the ERR MiniCommander 2 with smoke control. I'm guessing I may have to do some "creative" alterations to the cab configuration to fit the board in. I'd like to have sound, but I think that's a total pipe dream from looking at it.
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Re: K-line Plymouth-Upgrade advice?

pittsburghrailfan ·
Could there be a chance of modifying the hood for the electronics, e.g, make it taller? Or would that require too much hassle?
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Re: K-line Plymouth-Upgrade advice?

gunrunnerjohn ·
That's for you to decide. I will hasten to point out, the stock fan driven K-Line smoke unit consumes much of the space under the hood, it's pretty large.
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Re: O-22 Switch Track Controllers

Dan Padova ·
The momentary type is what I was thinking. I use DPDT spring loaded toggle switches for my G scale turnouts.
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Re: O-22 Switch Track Controllers

JohnGaltLine ·
While the switch may take up a little less room, I like using two push buttons. I really like illuminated buttons as you don't need any more room for indicator red/green lights. If you're into building a little circuit you can also use a single button where each push will throw the switch in the opposite direction. While a little uncommon, there are even push buttons with bi-color LEDs in them so a single hole in the panel could give both remote control and signal lights. Just adding my 2...
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Re: O-22 Switch Track Controllers

ADCX Rob ·
Yes. Momentary center off SPDT (On)-Off-(On).
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