Tagged With "gauge"

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Albany Train Show March 2016

Vintage Trains ·
Great little show at the Polish Community Center, 225 Washington Ave. Extension, Albany, NY. Working model train layouts, 100 vendor tables, great food on premises, FREE appraisals, FREE parking, kids 12 and under FREE! Our very own Don Klose will also be on hand. Who's Don Klose you say? Look at your April/May 2016 O Gauge Railroading Magazine....Yeah, that Don Klose! C'mon down to the show and hunt for treasures, re-unite with old friends, make new friends, spend the day talking trains....
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Bassett Lowke O Gauge Train BLACK WATCH

Stewart763 ·
it's been a while since I was on the forum so please forgive me,to day Sunday my wife and I took our BLACK WATCH we Train you call them Locos to our HORNBY O gauge Club it had not been out of the box for some time We took  the 3 Tinplate coaches that belong to the set along to see how it would run so if this works are 3 photographs and a youtube video the sound is nothing special    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbOBj5f1uz8      
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Buying Track

Dan Padova ·
So as I have mentioned in other posts, I am getting back into O scale after an absence of 25 years. I still have a box full of 0-72 and O-42 curves and another box of O gauge straight sections. I would prefer to stay with tubular track. That said, I have been looking at track for sale on Evilbay. I plan to use as much wide radius as I can and keep the O-31 to a minimum. As far as turnouts go, I don't see much in the way of O-72 turnouts at this point. But I have just begun searching. I have...
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(04/14/15) Take a Ride on the Reading!

Menards ·
Introducing the Reading Lines Boxcar! This O Gauge boxcar features new and improved premium metal trucks and operating couplers. Each car is finely detailed and sequentially numbered so that no two are the same. The box is colored yellow and has a...
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Bought another General at the Big E Amherst show

baggetta ·
Went to the big train show in West Springfield over the weekend hoping to find another General to add to my collection. Found a couple but could only afford one. I ended up with the Union Pacific model by Lionel. It moves along pretty good.  I've been redoing my layou (The Southwest Tombstone RR)an placed it on the top level loop.  You can check out my layout in the video linked here. Lots more to do, but it's coming along. http://youtu.be/Ehhh3ZqiyUs  
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Any Make O Gauge Engine Upgrade to TMCC with RailSound 4

Jamestown Trains ·
All,   Lionel has made it clear that they will not be issuing licenses for companies to make an after factory Legacy Control/Sound upgrade kit.  The Electric Railroad systems have proven to be excellent over the past 4 years or so we have...
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Anyone have a mixed gauge layout?

TomlinsonRunRR ·
Recently, I was bemoaning the fact that I have some nice Matchbox or similar cars from the early 60s though 80s but wished they were O scale.  Then I got to thinking that with some creativity and a move from the living room floor to my cr*ppy...
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Does MTH actually respond to email/phone requests?

RayL ·
I began some few years back by buying an MTH R-T-R set and have since purchased 2 more engines, various cars and various accessories and additional RealTrax pieces. Recently, I've begun to wonder if I went the wrong way. By that, I mean NOT my decision to go with O gauge, but my decision to go with MTH. I have, at various times over the past several months/years, tried to communicate with MTH regarding various topics such as service, sales, product information, to name 3. It hasn't been...
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Finally got my Auto-Train running

RailRide ·
It's been three years since I started this in earnest, and many more since I started accumulating the rolling stock to do this, but the effort finally bore fruit this afternoon: I had intended to upload it to the Forum's viewer rather than YouTube,...
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***YORK PICKUP AVAILABLE*** Over 250 Lionel and MTH Trains For Sale/Trade

bmartz1991 ·
***YORK PICKUP AVAILABLE*** Over 250 Lionel and MTH Trains For Sale/Trade LIONEL 6-6116 Soo Line Ore Car $20 6-6131 Illinois Terminal Four-Bay Covered Hopper $20 6-6134 Burlington Northern Two-Bay ACF Hopper (Std. O) $30 6-6209 New York Central Gondola w/ Coal Load (Std. O) (2 Available) Now $15 Was $20 6-6230 Erie-Lackawanna Reefer (Std. O) $30 6-6232 Illinois Central Boxcar (Std. O) $30 6-6233 Canadian Pacific Rail Flatcar w/ Stakes (Std. O) $30 6-6239 Burlington Northern Boxcar (Std. O)...
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Re: ***YORK PICKUP AVAILABLE*** Over 250 Lionel and MTH Trains For Sale/Trade

jlm1973 ·
Look for email about the Rock Island boxcar. 6-17271 Rock Island 50' Modern Boxcar (Std. O) $30 James
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Mike CT ·
Tin coating is used as a corrosion inhibitor, Even copper when subject to weather and moisture will form oxides and most likely sulfates, blue/green colors, which adds resistance to terminations. Automotive wiring subject to salts and corrosives, would do well to be tin plated, IMO. There are also additives, pastes, that can be use to increase/protect terminations in addition to the plating. Some crimp connectors will have the paste include as part of the connector. A 500 ft roll of single...
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Michael Hokkanen ·
My LHS use 18 for everything so I followed suit. Solid wire is definitely much easier to hook up to accessories. I think 20 should also be fine. This comes from working with BOTH...... (stranded and solid)
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

gunrunnerjohn ·
A tip for using stranded wire for accessories, just tin the ends so the connections are using "solid" wire, but you have the flexibility of stranded wire.
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PJB ·
I've tinned 24 awg stranded and, because of how thin it is / how few strands there are, I found that it snaps easily. Hence, why I now prefer solid for thin wire needs. Regarding Fleabay - every seller is obviously different, but I bought wire twice from 2 different sellers and in both cases it was old or poorly stored, brittle and crumbly. Caveat emptor. Peter
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

cjack ·
Any time you tin stranded wire, it is prone to breaking. The auto industry never tins or solders connectors for this reason. They crimp connections. One exception I found were BMW motorcycle harnesses. They bond multiple connection wires of the same circuit together inside a harness but only in a straight run. I think anytime there is movement or vibration, a soldered connector or wire end will tend to break.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

gunrunnerjohn ·
Hmm... I have no such issue with tinning the ends of stranded wire, and I've been using that technique for years.
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PJB ·
People always say "it's a personal preference," but that's silly. Because all my power drops are OGR stranded 14 AWG and had a bad experience with some old brittle solid 22AWG wire, I purposely stuck to stranded for everything. But, I realized brittle old solid isn't a good test case. And, as I've recently discovered, when working with fine wire, like 22AWG and finer, solid is much easier to work with because it doesn't fray or require tinning.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

overlandflyer ·
there is one thing about solid wire which you have to watch out for. when you strip the end, make sure you do not nick (even slightly) the wire itself. if you do, it will only a few bends and the single conductor will snap off. for very thin wires (< 26 ga), i use No-Nik strippers exclusively... cheers...gary
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Ace ·
There is no fixed rule for what gauge of wire to use for track power or accessory power. It all depends on the length of wire and how many amps it will carry. A voltage drop calculator (Google it) can be used to figure adequate wire gauge for a specific application.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

overlandflyer ·
i often sit back and smile at these conversations, and i won't offer any counter argument, but if you actually did some practical research on this, 20 ga. wire in open air (how most train layouts are wired), will easily pass 5-6 amps which is a lot more power than any of my trains draw. AWG tables are hugely conservative for maximum power transmission (i.e. usually calculated as bundled wires over km distances) and even pushed to its maximum capacity 20 ga solid copper wire will drop less...
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Mike CT ·
14 ga solid for track circuits. 18 ga solid thermostat wire for all accessory/switch control . Layout wiring . Click on the link for a slideshow.
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Dan Padova ·
There is some 20 gauge tinned solid copper wire for sale on Evilbay. I suspect the tinning will improve soldering capability.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Ace ·
The only advantage for stranded wire is that it is more resistant to damage from frequent flexing. Solid wire is generally cheaper, and entirely satisfactory for your purpose. I recall once talking to a store clerk about solid vs. stranded wire of the same gauge for automotive applications. He said stranded wire was better because electricity travels on the surface of the wire, and stranded wire has lots more surface area. That's total BS !!!
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JohnGaltLine ·
Actually it isn't total BS, it just only applies to very high frequency currents. The effect is meaningless to anything in model trains or general household use, but it does exist. As far as layout wiring goes, use whichever you prefer. Solid is probably easier to get a clean strip and to attach to things, where as stranded is easier to fish through to the location. JGL
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cjack ·
Actually it's partially true. But not in this case. It's the omissions of details that were left out. Higher frequency current does travel on the surface of the wire. It's called skin effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect In the case of ordinary stranded wire, the surface area does not increase much since the wires are all shorted together. Stranded Litz wire does have a reduced resistance to higher frequency ac current because all the strands are insulated from each other.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Ace ·
That's very interesting. Thanks for the info, guys.
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Gregg ·
I'm thinking about a" short circuit "to either the track or accessory.. 20 gauge in my opinion is just tooo small. I want something that will handle a little more current.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

gunrunnerjohn ·
Unless you have very long runs, I'd think that #16 would be sufficient. UL thinks it's good enough to plug into 15A branch circuits for extension cords! Obviously, if you run larger wire, you get less voltage drops.
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Re: Stranded VS Solid Hook Up Wire

Dan Padova ·
For my track power I did use 14 gauge stranded wire. But for everything else, 14 gauge is too bulky to work with. I did check with the seller on the tinned wire. He assures me that it is tin coated copper. The reason I asked him is that $49.95 for 600 feet of 20 gauge copper wire on six rolls, each a different color, seems like a very good price.
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cjack ·
Price is good but in the ball park. Farm and Fleet here sells 18 ga stranded copper, 100 feet rolls for $9 each.
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Dan Padova ·
Thanks for all of the replies. A wealth of information to retain.
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RJR ·
Stranded or solid, 20 gauge is not close to being adequate for O gauge track power.
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Gregg ·
20 gauge is too small. Go at least 16 gauge...
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Dan Padova ·
Whoa Nelly, 16 gauge, really ? The wires that are supplied with almost all accessories can't be more than 22 gauge. The longest wire lead won't be any more than ten feet, and that's if I run from one end to the other, which is very unlikely.
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RJR ·
Really! Note that I said track power.
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gunrunnerjohn ·
Be careful of eBay wire. Make sure it's actually solid copper, much of the wire sold on eBay is aluminum that is copper plated.
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cjack ·
Good point. When you look at the charts, multiply the resistance listed by the expected amps on the wire and determine if you can stand the voltage drop. The voltage drop for our low 18 vac circuits are more critical than the 120 vac some of the charts' recommend gauges. In other words, a 2 vac drop on an 18 vac circuit is more significant than a 2 vac drop on a 120 vac circuit.
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Re: ***YORK PICKUP AVAILABLE*** Over 250 Lionel and MTH Trains For Sale/Trade

milwrd ·
Email sent on gargraves
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Prospector ·
Manual switches are cheaper but it is still a lot of coin flowing out at one time for only being used for a short time during the year. I had trouble justifying the expense with my wife. Also, I got kicked out from under the tree but we have a spare room for storage and kids' use in the basement I got permission to take over so that worked to my benefit. In a previous year, got a couple of folding picnic tables and kicked the car out of the garage for a month. Like you I was looking to do...
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Re: Train layout - next step after Figure 8 for children's train around tree?

Moonman ·
Alex(prospector), That's a very nice and interesting variation of the figure 8 into an over/under. Everyone likes bridges and tunnels. A requisite on a layout.
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Re: ***YORK PICKUP AVAILABLE*** Over 250 Lionel and MTH Trains For Sale/Trade

SteveL ·
Would you take $250.00 for the SD60M?
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Re: ***YORK PICKUP AVAILABLE*** Over 250 Lionel and MTH Trains For Sale/Trade

bmartz1991 ·
I'll be at York in April and can meet if anybody wants to save on shipping.
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Re: ***YORK PICKUP AVAILABLE*** Over 250 Lionel and MTH Trains For Sale/Trade

jhz563 ·
Sent you an email about a possible trade.
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Re: Any Make O Gauge Engine Upgrade to TMCC with RailSound 4

Homedad40 ·
I truly like the Williams by Bachman 40 ton switcher but its only conventional control so if I bought this engine you can convert it to full TMCC command control? When I first heard it came out and saw the review I was ready to jump and buy one but then found out its only conventional control and then I lost interest in it
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Re: Please Visit North Schuylkill High Railers Hi Rail Layout Frackville-PA

Dan Padova ·
From what I can see in the video, the layout is quite impressive. I would like to see more of it. Are you open to visitors at any other time of year ?
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Re: Please Visit North Schuylkill High Railers Hi Rail Layout Frackville-PA

Wowak ·
We have at least one open house per month, usually 12-5 on a Sunday, and every Sunday between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Next one will be either 2/14 or 2/21, I'll know for sure by this weekend. I try to post reminders on the Facebook page but I don't always remember. I've posted a few recent pictures on the Facebook page, too.
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Re: Please Visit North Schuylkill High Railers Hi Rail Layout Frackville-PA

Wowak ·
I'm a member of this club, you can see some of my handiwork on the layout. We also have a Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/North-S...ers-105877369466319/
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Re: Please Visit North Schuylkill High Railers Hi Rail Layout Frackville-PA

phillyreading ·
Brian, you did some interesting work on the Lionel Reading T-1. Are MTH Reading T-1's detailed any better? I might be up to Reading or Hamburg PA in the spring or early summer, so I might stop by Frackville mall. Lee Fritz
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