Tagged With "Pennsy"

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Pennsy Cats Whiskers

Dan Padova ·
Raymond Lowey designed the five stripe paint scheme in the early '30s for the GG1. In his words, it was not only aesthetics, but also functional, as anyone working or otherwise, on the tracks could see the cats whiskers coming. So here's my question, Why is it that the cats whiskers on the GG1 curve all the way around and onto the nose of the locomotive, making them visible on the front of the loco ? While on Pennsy's covered wagon diesels, the stripes are visible from the side only. I don't...
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Dan Padova ·
A good example of how not to paint this locomotive.....
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MNCW ·
Ironic that a railroad who constantly seemed to be in default, the New Haven, had one of the snazzier paint jobs. My dad worked briefly with them as a fireman after WWII. Tom
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MNCW ·
PS- Dan, thank you for your service! Tom
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PRR Man ·
the PRR originally maintained two paint schemes for the diesel and electric power: 5 stripe for passenger engines, single stripe for freight engines. eventually that line was blurred (pun intended) and both schemes were found on both uses.
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Dominic Mazoch ·
Lionel's "Little Joe" was based on the GE EP-5 for the NH. PRR tested a motor, but did not purchase. So Lionel blew it!
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Rusty Traque ·
Original Lionel never called their EP5 a "Little Joe" in the postwar era. Lionel/MPC started calling the EP5 a Little Joe for marketing purposes. Also, neither Great Northern nor Milwaukee Road had EP5's. Rusty
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J Daddy ·
No Pennsy EP5 but the Penn Central did.
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J Daddy ·
Actually most early "covered wagons" for the Pennsy had a single stripe? The "cat whisker" front emblem I thought always refereed to the Santa Fe
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Rusty Traque ·
Actually, that's the "cigar band," "cat whiskers" refers to the original nose scheme: Rusty
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J Daddy ·
Thanks Rusty... I always flip flop the two...
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Ace ·
Thank you for the education about discerning cat's whiskers from cigar bands. Admit I enjoy those esoteric details. Penn Central got so lazy about aesthetics with their basic black locomotive schemes.
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Rusty Traque ·
Seems like the PC wasn't the only one: Rusty
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J Daddy ·
Yes and when I was a kid I thought the C&O was bad too...
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Mike CT ·
Weaver E8 model.
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Rusty Traque ·
Someone could probably write a book on "dip" paint jobs: Rusty
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Hot Water ·
I don't know what "covered wagons" you are referring to but, the photos of the earliest "covered wagons" from most of the builders did indeed have the multi-stripes join together on the nose and then drop down to a single point at the anti-climer.
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Dan Padova ·
Don't I feel foolish ? Googled Pennsy diesels and low and behold the stripes do come around and onto the noses of most of them. It's amazing how much I don't know any more. Lionel certainly got it wrong with their version of the EP-5. Not only were the stripes incorrect, but the locomotive is nowhere near a Little Joe Electric. Sorry for the fuss. I had better go back to sleep and wake up again. Maybe I never woke in the first place....LOL
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Lionel Pennsy M1a Coal Hauler Set - 6-81247

PSU1980 ·
Looking to purchase a new Lionel Pennsy M1a Coal Hauler Set - 6-81247 or Lionel Pennsy M1a - 6-81245. Kevin
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Mark Trains ·
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Pennsy's R1

Dan Padova ·
Browsing through my railroad photos, I came across this one, which I have viewed many times. It's the Pennsylvania railroad's R1. I had never noticed it before but the body appears to be welded, not riveted as in other photos of R1s. All of the reading I have done on GG1s says that Raymond Lowey decided to have the GG1 body welded for aesthetic reasons, and that it was a first in car body construction. Can someone shed some light on what I may have missed or misinterpreted ?
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spwills ·
Ah! Obscure Pennsy electric motors! One of my favorite subjects! The R1 (4-8-4) was a prototype passenger motor designed concurrently with the prototype GG1. It was not chosen for continued production. The DD2 (4-4-0+0-4-4) was a prototype freight motor designed in the late 30's for the projected, but never built, Pittsburgh extension of the electrification. It too was not duplicated.
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Hot Water ·
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Dan Padova ·
A bit more searching brought this kid bit to light. One wonders why GG1s were not considered for the electrification extension project to Pittsburgh. "The Pennsylvania Railroad's class DD2 electric locomotive was a single prototype locomotive never placed into series production.[3] It was intended as an improved and simplified GG1 for use on the planned, but never built, extension of the PRR's electrification west of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.[1] The one locomotive produced was numbered #5800...
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Dan Padova ·
Well, that explains that then. Thanks.
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Simon Winter ·
Dan, On the assumption your interest is the PRR, I suggest you invest in a copy of the late Al Staufer's "Pennsy Power III". Most everything PRR is covered, and there are a wealth of pictures. The book is about 1 1/2" thick. Al used to set up at York, not sure if his son continues the practice. Simon
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rheil ·
I took a number of photos of 5800 in Baltimore. It was, as the above states, used as a freight helper through B&P tunnel which was just west of the passenger station. As Mr. Padova's earlier photo shows, it looked like a slightly shorter GG1 with no stripes, different lettering placement, grilles,etc. Between runs it was kept on one of the tracks heading up the Northern Central.
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Re: K4 Pennsy Loco & tender ????

Ted Hikel ·
I'll second that advice. Be aware that, like other Pacifics, a K4 is not a huge locomotive. A scale K4 will look at home with some post war or traditional sized equipment like Irvington/Madison cars. You can read up on the MTH, Lionel, K-Line and K-Line derived Lionel K4s here: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...otive-guide-pacifics
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K4 Pennsy Loco & tender ????

Dan Padova ·
So if I were looking for a K4, in semi-scale ( A whole 'mother subject already discussed elsewhere ) what would I look for. Basically, I would like to find one, manufacturer doesn't matter, that looks right with Lionel's GG1, the semi-scale or traditional version, whichever you prefer. It doesn't have to be new. It has to be able to run on a conventional layout. And last but not least, it can't break the bank.
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prrhorseshoecurve ·
You have to be careful with this choice there are some locomotives in semi-scale that are called k4 and some that actually look and correctly labeled k4.
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Dan Padova ·
Thanks Ted, that was interesting reading along with fine photography.
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rex desilets ·
The Railking K4 is a winner.
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Joe Hohmann ·
For semi-scale (like the GG1), why not the postwar Lionel 675. You can get a nice one for about $150. Mine has been chugging smoke for many years, and is currently under the tree. I have it pulling the MTH Rail King Madison cars (detailed interiors that hold the passengers that I added).
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Bobby Ogage ·
This is the Rail King K4s, and it is a low cost great runner with PS2. Running in the conventional mode, the Rail King K4s will give you many of the PS2 / PS3 features including sounds, smoke, and remote rear coupler operation.
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SJC ·
I had the PS2 RK Imperial K4. Sold it on the forum but wish I kept it (needed the $$$ at the time). Super nice engine. If you can find the Imperial RK K4 from 2011/2012 or so, consider jumping on it. If complete accuracy and extra details aren't a "must-have" for you, consider a Postwar 2025/675/etc. It is a 2-6-2 but has the K4 look. I bought one, in beautiful condition, for about $160. Runs like a Swiss watch!
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Mike CT ·
Weaver had done a K4 some time ago. I have a Lionel K4 from around 2003.
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Tony_V ·
And I will second Ted's advice. I currently have an MTH Premier K4 running on my Christmas layout pulling a non scale Christmas consist. It looks fine to me. My Premier Reading T1 looks a bit out of place with the same consist. The consist is all modern though (LTI and newer). This photo is not the quality of some but it gets the point across. Tony
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AMCDave ·
I have two....VERY NICE.......gets my vote.
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Dan Padova ·
I'm giving that option serious consideration, Joe.
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Re: PRR K4s Pacific with an interesting detail.

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 ·
Well, I don't know either. I tried finding 5401 on the roster here but couldn't find it listed. There are a great number of K4's on this page(and 5401 should have been right there). Maybe browse around and see if anything else is similar(unless you have already seen this resource). http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...px?id=PRR&Page=8 I found this site some time ago while looking up NYC Hudson's. They have a pretty impressive collection of pics on there of locomotives as well as rolling...
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smd4 ·
Maybe they installed those because there are no covers over the valve heads.
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PRR K4s Pacific with an interesting detail.

Nick Chillianis ·
Found this on Shorpy.com . It's a 1929 view of the brand new "Senator" at Washington Union Station. Engine 5401 seems to have a bit of decoration that I haven't seen before on a Pennsy engine. Note the keystone plates on the valve heads above the pistons. I wonder if they dressed her that way just for this maiden run. Also, note the absence of catenary. This was pre-electrification. Clicking on the image will enlarge it to its full (enormous) size. I'm pretty sure that freshly scrubbed look...
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mark s ·
Such niceties were probably disposed with, during the forced austerity of the Depression? Nice touch, though.
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Dan Padova ·
Great photo. Look at the shined shoes on the engineer and fireman !
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GG1 2340 ·
Ahh, Finally someone who knows about Manhattan Transfer! The base of the old platform can still be seen today. Right in the Kearny Meadows!
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Firewood ·
I think so. Looks like the G-man is reaching for it already. (extreme right)
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Kent Loudon ·
Is that a bottle of seltzer on the pilot beam? For a prohibition-era christening
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MTH SD-45 Pennsy 3 Rail price lowered

Tom D. ·
I'm selling an MTH 3 rail Pennsy SD-45. It is in like new condition with the box, packing and paperwork. It has the electro couplers, sound, and smoke. I bought it about a year ago planning to convert it to 2 rail. I didn't realize it was the older drive that doesn't have the drop in 2 rail wheels. I test ran it and it works fine. It has maybe 5 minutes of operation on it. The only thing wrong with it is the engineer figure is loose in the shell. It came loose when ti turned the engine...
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Re: US HOBBIES PENNSY I-1 Decapod 2 RAIL Brand new $475

Dave Funk ·
This engine is still available.... I have been unable to return a few emails inquiries. The emails keep being returned as undeliverable. If you are interested in it email me at.... dsfunk427@gmail.com Dave
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US HOBBIES PENNSY I-1 Decapod 2 RAIL Brand new $475

Dave Funk ·
For Sale is a new US Hobbies 2 rail brass O scale Pennsy I1 decapod locomotive. Made by KTM in Japan I was the 1st person to unpack loco from its original shipping wrappings and did the minor assemble need to get it track ready. Old grease removed and new grease put in gear box and ran on rollers for 1 hour. It runs superb. I can email more pics if interested. Price $475 plus UPS shipping from PA I prefer Pay pal as friend and family, checks have to clear before shipping. MY EMAIL ADDRESS...
OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Suite 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
330-757-3020

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