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Star Wiring for Around the Room Shelf Layout DCS

Darran ·
I have build an around the room shelf layout, its roughly 12'x12' and no more than 2' deep benchwork. I suck at electrical, and Im trying to understand how to wire for DCS. What I have read is that star wiring is the best, so my question would be: For me to be able to run two main lines on their own power feeds from the TIU, what is the best way to run star wiring on an around the room shelf layout? Do I just run a feeder to an MTH distribution block and then run feeders from the block to...
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JTD433GYR Block signals-- anyone have them?

Gondolawillie ·
I saw these on eBay for about $16. Wondering if anyone has bought and used these. I am looking for some simple signals to dress up my layout. S pecifications : Brand:evemodel. Size: Please see the picture. Style:Green,Yellow,Red. Reference Scale: 1:43,Suitable for O scale. Operating Voltage: 12V, AC or DC Compatible. Operating Current: 20mA. Material: Plastic. Package included: 2 complete lamps.,including 2 Resistors for 9~18V operation.
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TMCC Block Power Controller

Loose-Caboose ·
I am in search of one unit of the TMCC variety. Not to be confused with the Legacy unit labeled BPC2. As these are no longer manufactured I can't go to the local hobby store. I have purchased one unit on eBay and was a high bidder on another but the unit never got shipped so I am again leery of eBay. Let me know what you have.
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Signalling when a track is occupied

Mike Wyatt ·
I have a block section of track which can have power shut off, so I can park a train there. But- it is possible for a second train to get on that track and I never realize the block is occupied, until a collision. I had the idea to use a 151 semaphore out on the "main line" in view of the operator- which would appear to be a realistic (sort of) track signal. It would make a noise (the coil actuating) and signal red when a second train approached the occupied block. I use Fastrack. How would...
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Re: Is DCS compatible with Stop & Wait Block Power Control ?

George S ·
I haven't found a solution for this other than to run the engines in conventional mode. I want the feature too for protected crossings. I think there is some hope now that several people know the MTH serial port commands and with control through the wifi adapter, but no solutions completed yet to my knowledge. Mark DiVecchio or Dave Hikel could solve this, but it is probably a matter of priorities.
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Re: Is DCS compatible with Stop & Wait Block Power Control ?

JohnGaltLine ·
Could something like this be done? sure. Will it be? I see two problems. The first is shared with Legacy/tmcc as well, which is that the programing process for such a control option would necessarily be rather complex compared to the simple record and play back offered now. Both companies tend to design for the least common denominator, so 'complex', If-Then, programing options are not likely to be seen in the near future. The second issue is that while it is quite simple to use a computer...
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Re: Is DCS compatible with Stop & Wait Block Power Control ?

George S ·
Doesn't the Lionel system (LCS) allow programmatic control of the layout through track sensors? I don't have any of that and was only interpreting what I was reading. Also I believe they released their interface spec to the public. So, my assumption is that it could be done with Lionel. (I will await my bashing...) Next hypothesis is that MTH will eventually follow suit to be competitive. I realize this could take some time.
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Re: Is DCS compatible with Stop & Wait Block Power Control ?

JohnGaltLine ·
George, The LCS system gives you a bit of limited control, but only in that it will let you program a recorded series of events that will start every time an engine passes over the sensor track. I don't think you can program it to say: IF engine 1 passes the sensor THEN stop engine 1 AND start engine 2, ELSE IF engine 2 passes the sensor THEN stop engine 2 AND start engine 1. To the best of my understanding you can only program an exact repetition of timed key presses on the remote that will...
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Re: Is DCS compatible with Stop & Wait Block Power Control ?

GGG ·
First, For the speed mismatch, you need to do some maintenance on the engine that is too fast. I would validate that it is faster than all the MTH engines. Then clean the tach tape, make sure gap is correct, reload sound file. Test again. It also could be the one being caught, if.... wheels dirty, tires bad, mechanical binding. As far as block control in conventional, you could lock the engine in forward. When the block re-energizes the engine will start and move forward. Similar to what has...
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Re: Is DCS compatible with Stop & Wait Block Power Control ?

Dick Autz ·
Many thanks for the thoughtful replies.
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Re: Is DCS compatible with Stop & Wait Block Power Control ?

Dick Autz ·
G. On the speed mismatch... I have MTH Diesel SD60 and Camel Back Steam engines which are worst case and I found I have a track problem where the Camel Back looses traction with more than 3 cars being pulled. Working on that one. When using conventional mode I have found that I can't depend much on where the Engine stops each time at the same speed when I encounter a insulated track switch. Using an older Lionel conventional it also stops at a different position. Maybe I'm being too...
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Re: Cinder block walls

Avanti ·
Easily done by scribing in pink foam insulation. A little tedious, but not as bad as brick.
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Re: Cinder block walls

Alan Graziano ·
I use Plastruct concrete block patterned sheets. I think it is code PS-100. They work well gluing them to a piece of .060 or .o80" styrene sheet. Alan Graziano
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Re: Cinder block walls

p51 ·
You have a point there, nobody seems to make cinder block walls. Someone wanted me to scratchbuild a structure made of them a couple of years ago and I had to turn them down because I couldn't find anything that looked right. So many things you see all the time aren't made. I have never seen, say, those concrete blocks (with the bumps on top to stack them up) that are used all over the place as models. Or concrete barriers you see on every highway. I don't model the modern era, but it's...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Post 33 6/4/2017 List of Layout Installed Accessories Been awhile in getting back. Been busy patching up my junk 1950s Delta 24 inch jig saw and working on stereo systems, getting an old Dual 1225 turntable up and a 1955 Hallicrafters shortwave radio running. Scottie - No I did not install the Lionel trolley, I kept the HO trolley but had to replace the HO transformer. Tom - My installed accessories are: Scratch built Operating Turntable on page 1, Post 9 Coal Mine loading station, Scratch...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

MNCW ·
Charlie, I think I understand why you have no room to put the dispatching station on your layout...maybe you need an extension to the layout, your train room, house or all! Hope you continue posting when you can. Tom
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Eli Thanks for the response. Yes old jig saws are very handy and fun to fix up. I have had an old 1950s 18 inch Craftsman jigsaw since the 1970s. You can see a picture of my Dads childhood pedal pedal powered #1 Amateur Velocipede Scroll Saw (used by my brother and me from age 7 or so through high school) on post 10 in page 1 of this thread. The 24 inch Delta jigsaw just begged me to take it home from a church sale in 2012. I saw it on the floor in poor shape with part of the bottom casting...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

EscapeRocks ·
I have no idea how I missed this topic last year up thru today. This is quite possibly my all time favorite on OGR in the 10+ years I've been here. This is my kind of layout. I love the classics. Thank you so much for sharing this with all of us, and detailing how you did everything. There are not enough superlatives for me to use to express how happy it made me to read this entire topic today! Nice work!
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Adriatic ·
What was that your playin' on the turntable Charlie?
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
David Thank you for the kind comments. I hope members who like the older 50s style layout and those just thinking or planning can get inspired to just start and go with what space, resources and skills they have and enjoy this hobby. My basic first board layout and four for $10 Lionel 242 locos, two Lionel LWs and 17 Marx 1590 switches and used 027 track cost less than one fancy new locomotive. So one can have a lot of fun building a layout and running it with your kids, grandkids or...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Post 35 6/22/2017 Unit trains on my Layout A unit train is a freight train carrying the same type of commodity, from origin to destination. ... The locomotives pulling the train will usually stay connected from origin to destination and return with empty cars. I was familiar with unit trains as Alcoa used them from my childhood company town, to transport alumina from the alumina refinery in Point Comfort, TX to the aluminum smelter in Rockdale, TX. We loaded and shipped 25-30, 100 ton...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Mitch Now that is great couple of lines of giraffe cars. I can run 5 giraffe cars and they get the attention with all that head and neck ducking. They are the most enjoyed train for visitors, large and small and I always have the giraffe train on the layout. I did not include giraffe cars in my post on Unit Trains as I have trouble calling giraffes a commodity ! I did use the giraffe cars as my favorite action car in a recent post. Charlie
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Post 36 Train Shelves for the Train Room My train shelves are made in two sections each to allow moving thru doors. They also stand on the floor and are held to the wall by two 1" x 1" angles screwed into a wall stud. Construction is 1" x 4" straight pine lumber with grooves routed in for train wheels. It is usually less expensive to buy 1x4x 8 ft common pine boards at Home Depot and pick through them to find straight boards. Knots are not that important to me as they can be filled in and...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

MNCW ·
Charlie, Nice looking shelves. I like your extra touch of the router grooves. Good news...I see some extra space for more locos & cars! Tom
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Adriatic ·
When you post, I get the same rush of excitement I'd get when a new issue of one these brought; especially when I was a boy; I'd stalk the pharmacy shelves for them before they vanished. Your builds are like time refined creations out of a "best of" issue. You keep pumping out gold Charlie, I'll keep taking on fluids for my excess drool. No train covers handy, these all contain kit car info for ones I ended up choosing to restore....two decades later, still had boyhood refrences lol. That's...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Fellows, thanks for the views, comments and likes. There is really not extra shelves as there are 3 or 4 shelves of trains on the layout and many more cars in boxes! I have a plan and wall space for one more section. MTN - I am not into tube audio gear but 1970s, mostly silver faced and walnut veneer, like Sansui 9090 and db. I find audio gear cheap at garage and estate sales and that have discrete transistors that I can repair. I had a Hallicrafters tube SW receiver years ago and did not...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

JD2035RR ·
Charlie, I have to say this is one of my favorite topics on the forum. I had a 4x17 layout as a kid, and always thought it would be fun to build another. I had put it off for a while due to lack of space and time. However, you and your layout inspired me to get started on a layout, and let it evolve over time. I'm in the early stages now, but work on it a little here and there when I get time. I really enjoy the enginuity of everything on your layout from the turntable, to the wiring, to the...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
JD Thanks for the encouraging words and you are exactly the type of train fan this topic is aimed at. Does the 2035 in your forum name stand for the Lionel 2035 steam engine? As you probably know the 2035 is my last favorite engine for my 027 track and Marx switches and allow me to pull heavy trains with operating cars. I found the planning of the track diagram went pretty fast. I would try to study other layouts to see where you might want to go in the future and try to plan for that or...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Aldovar ·
At some point in the near future I'm going to start working on our new layout. I'm going to work back through through this thread to crib some ideas from you. I'll sit down with my little helpers and scroll through everything to ask them what ideas they like best and incorporate them. Thank you again for doing this.
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Aldovar Thanks for the reply and kind words. Sounds like a good plan to get the little helpers involved. The model train hobby depends on the next generation. Been working on the next post to this topic. Charlie
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Post 37 Layout Skirting When the layout was moved to the new train/media/audio room 5 years ago it was put on legs at 35 inches above the floor. This height was found to be good for operating and viewing from standing or sitting on a stool. Since the train room does not have a closet or storage room the space below the train layout is used for storage of LP records, spare stereo gear, etc. This makes for a messy looking area. It was decided to make a cloth skirt to hide the mess. Some dark...
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MNCW ·
Charlie, That looks pretty professional and I like the color. I had used skirting (a blue/gray color) on my last layout, too. I bought mine from Woolworths (!) and used velcro to affix it to the underside of the layout. You should be happy with how yours turned out. Tom
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Tom Thanks for the response. You are this topics best fan! Velcro is a better way to hold the skirt on but as you know takes much more work to sew on and install on the layout. I have seen Velcro on layouts at train shows that get moved and set up often. I took the quick easy way and also do not remove the skirt so the tacks work ok. Next posts will be on Special Trains run on the layout. Charlie
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

MNCW ·
Charlie, Glad you have more topics up your sleeve. Great layout you have there and I look forward to your posts...as do many others who are following your thread. I was reviewing some of your earlier posts and I remembered we have 2 things in common, I like the LW transformers, too and my last layout had that same crazy wiring that you showed in one of your earlier pictures. When I had to take apart that layout when we moved 5 or so years ago, I had such a mess, I unknowingly/accidentally...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

JD2035RR ·
In fact it does stand for the Lionel postwar steamer, my favorite Christmas gift that I received as a kid. I really enjoyed it as a kid, and grew to respect how great of an engine it really is as I grew older. Maybe the most underrated engine of the postwar period? Your family situation at the time of the build sounds similar to mine now. It's tough finding time at the end of the day with so much going on. I'm really trying to make it a priority to include the kids on the build, to try to...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
JD Thanks for the response. Model railroading takes lots of time and must be fit in with the rest of your life. I tend to model in spurts with winter being the most active. It takes planning and patience to accumulate railroad material and gear if cost is an issue as it always is with many things competing with the money. Sounds like you are on your way. Charlie
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Post 38 Popular Trains Run on the Layout (1st Popular Trains Post) I operate several Trains frequently on the layout such as the Operating Car Train the Operating Car Train, the Christmas train and a Wrecking Train and several more to be detailed in later posts. Operating Car Train and the Milk Car Lionel 3582 One train always on the layout is the Operating Car Train . This train consists of a Lionel 3582 milk car, a Lionel 3656 Cattle Car, a Lionel Barrel 3556 Unloading Car, and Lionel Ice...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

MNCW ·
Charlie, Seeing your hand-operated giant tweezers made me think that was was the author Alfred Chandler meant when he wrote the managerial book The Visible Hand... but maybe not. Love those milk cars! I have several, too. Tom
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David from Dearborn ·
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Tom and David Thank you for contributing to this topic. David, the most fun part of my layout construction was the TT and Round house. They also provide the most operating fun and let me use and involve more of my engine collection. Charlie
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Post 39 Popular Trains Run on the Layout (2nd Popular Trains Post) Operating Car Train and the Lionel 3656 Cattle Car and Cattle Pen The next car on the Operating Car Train is the Lionel 3656 Cattle Car. The Cattle Car and the cattle pen are another of the more popular Lionel Accessories and easy to find. The Cattle Car and cattle pen do two operations. The first is to unload cattle from the cattle car into the cattle pen. Then the cattle car can go on its way with the train. Later that...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Post 40 Popular Trains Run on the Layout (3rd Popular Trains Post) Operating Car Train Lionel Barrel 3556 Unloading Car and the Lionel 362 Barrel Loader Another car on the Operating Car Train is the Lionel Barrel 3556 Unloading Car. This car uses a vibrator motor to transport wooden barrels up and off the car. The barrels can discharged into a Lionel black plastic tray used for logs or on to a platform you can make. Picture shows Lionel Barrel 3556 Unloading car discharging Barrels The best...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Post 41 Popular Trains Run on the Layout (4th Popular Trains Post) Operating Car Train Lionel Ice Refrigerator 19825 car and Lionel Icing Station 6-2316 Another operating car on the Operating Car Train is the Lionel Ice Refrigerator 19825 car. This car receives blocks of plastic ice from the Lionel Icing Station 6-2316. If you have a Lionel Icing Station, the Lionel Ice Refrigerator car is a must. Dumping ice blocks into a gondola or coal car just will not cut it ! Of coarse there is no way...
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Adriatic ·
Horray for operating cars. I missed some. My notifications on this thread are only comming intermediatly...likely MS Outlooks new found unreliability these last months and not a forum issue. I love seeing posts from David of Dearborn too. He is another "Tinkerer Extraordinare". Portable micro- tinplate layouts and the coolest of long forgotten about "gadgety" tin accessories are just a few of his goodies. Gramps always had plenty of #90s to keep little fingers busily entertained (and slider...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

MNCW ·
Charlie, Very nice. I have the Barrel Loader, the Icing Station and a couple of milk cars and the platform. Good stuff! Tom
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

Choo Choo Charlie ·
Adriatic A glad you asked. asked "The red, white, and black switcher; what road is that? A striking loco." Post 21 on page 2 of this topic (quoted below) explains this engine. "I had a Marx 1998 switcher missing the shell. I found a Lionel SW2 shell and cut out about 1 inch of it to shorten to fit the 1998. I painted it black, white and red in the colors of ALCOAs Bauxite and Northern short line railroad from the Bauxite, ARK alumina and chemical plant in Bauxite, ARK to the a major...
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Re: Building and Evolution of an Action Packed Fifties Era Lionel 027 Operating & Switching Layout w/ Turntable

JD2035RR ·
Charlie, at one point you mentioned automating the manual Lionel log loader on your layout. I don't want to make you do anything you dont want to do, but I'd love to see you do it and share how you do it. I've thought about picking one of those up and doing the same thing - possibly with an old switch motor to drop the logs and create a conveyor to pull the logs up from a dump bin into the shed. Just a thought for a future post! Thanks! OGR magazine should run an article on your layout -...
 
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