Tagged With "Kadees"

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Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
I just finished installing a scale coupler and fix pilot on my Atlas O Erie Built. Yesterday I put on the included pilot as it came with the cover over the coupler hole, but I realized it stuck out way too far, and we run them in freight service so it shouldn't be on there anyway. Today my dad ran up to the hobby store and got a pack of Kadees to put on it. I removed the screw that holds the cover onto the pilot. I then built up the mounting pad with three sheets of styrene, not sure how...
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Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Hi there everyone, Here is an off the wall question. Has anyone ever gotten and Engine with Kadee couplers that came with claw couplers cut off, then retro fitted the claw couplers back on some how?
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

rtr12 ·
Nice job, looks good!
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Former Member ·
Looks much better. Go a step further by cutting the trip pin off and add a nice air hose with glad hand to the pilot.
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Steven Michael ·
That's the plan! Where is the best place could I order one? I was just going to look at the exploded parts diagram of my new ES44s and order one from Lionel, but I am sure there are better ones out there.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
I usually grab one from my parts bin. When I convert cars to Kadees I save all those air hoses. I like the MTH air hoses because they are much thinner and have a nicer glad hand than the Atlas part. I also use PSC air hoses and glad hands with real rubber hose... but usually its the MTH air hose.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
Thanks for the information. You have a part number for the MTH ones?
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

CentralFan1976 ·
Awesome! Since my Erie-built was a cob job, I had to fab the Kadee shim for the rear of my unit, but luckily the donor had sent me the 2-rail pilot with the coupler cover door.
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Former Member ·
No I dont have an MTH part #. Whatever air hose they put on all the trucks for their 3 rail cars. It just pops off the truck, and then I cut the mount off.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
Uh oh, looks like they did use the covers in freight service! Oh well, I still like the look of the knuckle better. I'll think about it...
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Norm Charbonneau ·
Good job! I like those engines. I had them in NYC but sold them off a few years ago. Wouldn't mind finding the PRR ones someday.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Mike G, Easy buddy, I know you had a bad day and this guy is a little out of line, I hope you are OK. PCRR/Dave
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mike g. ·
Thanks Dave!
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Bob Delbridge ·
Mike, ignore him, your post/topic is fine like it is. About the only thing you can do if you ever have a truck mounted electrocoupler pocket that needs to be replaced is to buy a new truck, I don't know if the piece that has the pocket on it can be bought separately though.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Thanks, I think I am just going to leave it as it is and if someone whats to trade me for it with Kadee's then that would be great.
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Jan ·
You don't "cut-off" electrocouplers. They are disconnected and removed from the trucks. Kadees are normally mounted to the engine bodies which may have been modified. Most manufacturers have parts available that would allow you to return the engines to their original condition. What engine are you wanting to unconvert? Jan
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mike g. ·
Lionel UP Dash 8-40c.
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bigdodgetrain ·
6 dash number!! please
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mike g. ·
I don't know what it is? I will have to look when I get back from Chemo treatment.
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Hot Water ·
Why bother to change it? The Kadee metal couplers will couple to most large claw couplers.
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mike g. ·
Hi Jan, the number is 6-18205. Sorry about being so late, It's been a rough day!
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Bob Delbridge ·
While the electro-coupler can be removed, the coupler box, if there is one, usually gets in the way of the Kadee coupler box and has to be cut off, usually with a Dremel. Once cut off I suppose if you still had the box it could be glued back on with JB Weld, but all that I have cut off get tossed in the trash.
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mike g. ·
Hi Bob thanks, I did the same thing. I talked to Doug (Laidoffsick) before I did it. It turned out great, but now Im trading it and the guy who wants it was wondering if they could be put back on. I didn't think so but told him I would ask around on the forum.
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father.dragon ·
This locomotive didn't have electro-couplers. By the way do you criticize lionel couplers? There's more people who like them then kadees piece of ****
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mike g. ·
Father.Dragon, I never said they had electro-couplers, I am not criticizing lionel couplers. IMO I think that Kadee Couplers look more realistic then do the claw couplers. I do not judge others on there thoughts. Here is the deal, I am trading this engine cause I want to keep my collection to MTH engines. I don't mind Lionel rolling stock cause everything I get or have get's Kadee couplers. If you wish to jump my A** over this then maybe I should delete my post. But thank you for your thoughts.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Norm Charbonneau ·
I think the exposed coupler looks way better! That cover is too bulky looking, real or model..
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CentralFan1976 ·
I'm looking for a coupler cover, if you'd like to shed yours! ��
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
I agree, the thing would've stuck out two feet if it were real...
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Keystoned Ed ·
Most of the first generation PRR road diesels were initially fitted with coupler covers to minimize issues when colliding with vehicles. Around the 1954/5 time frame they began to be removed as the units were shopped. I agree that the coupler covers on the FM diesels are particularly clunky looking. That's a good looking railroad Steven Michael, you are very fortunate to have a true SPF for a Dad and mentor. Ed Rappe
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MTH PRR LS25, mild 3RSing of

Norm Charbonneau ·
I had wanted one of these for a long time when one finally popped up for sale here on OGR. I always thought it would make a good fixed pilot/Kadee model. Here is a shot of it sitting in town: I would share some video of its test run but I managed to launch all of its traction tires. I started the fixed pilot conversion by cutting the truck mounts off: I then devised a way to mount them to the frame, mostly to align it with the shell: This setup allows access to the fore/aft shell screws. I...
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Three Rail O Scale Atlas, Red Caboose, and MTH Freight Cars with Kadees for Sale (except for one car) - Prices Reduced

gnnpnut ·
I have the following freight cars for sale. Red Caboose Northern Pacific Wooden Ice Refrigerator Cars, car numbers 90078, 90336, and 90376.  $35.00 each shipped.  Brand new except for Kadee installation, never run. . Atlas Northern Pacific Double Door Box Cars.  Four car numbers  Brand New except for Kadee installation.  $49.00 each shipped.  All four cars for $185.00 shipped, and will be shipped in the original Atlas shipping box.   MTH Norfolk and...
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CentralFan1976 ·
Keep us in the loop or the ride height. I have a few MTH non-powered units that I'd like to lower.
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CentralFan1976 ·
BTW... Were they repowered? One thing that I want to is to change the sound set in one of my locos to represent one that has been repowered. For example, the NYC PBs were repowered with EMD prime movers... Since I have an Lionel NYC PB, with RailSounds, upgrading it to a modern sound set and an EMD prime mover should be pretty easy. With the ERR boards you've added, I doubt they have a Lima (Hamilton) sound set. So if they were repowered, a more readily available EMD sound set is a good...
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Norm Charbonneau ·
Mario, I don't go that crazy with sounds. I just used an Alco sound set that ERRCo had available. I really have no idea what Lima would have used for a horn on this beast. I'm sure the dual prime movers must have sounded pretty unique. I meant to find my Stauffer's books to see if there was any more info on these engines but I didn't get to it last night.
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CentralFan1976 ·
It looks so cool.
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Norm Charbonneau ·
This makes me want to unleash my MTH Centipedes since need to convert them over to Kadees anyway. Those were my last EOB project I think. I even kept the smoke units in them and bought the hardware from TAS to light them all off at the same time.
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CentralFan1976 ·
Good news... you don't have to fix the pilot!
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Tom Shirey ·
nice job of modeling!
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Norm Charbonneau ·
Thanks Tom! Maybe if I'm ambitious enough I'll finish it tonight. It seems to be struggling with my #5 x-overs. It would be nice to find flanged wheelsets to replace the dummies on the inboard axles. I doubt I'll extend the handrails at this point. I have way too much other stuff to do..
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mike g. ·
Very nice work. I have a few cars I need to do that with. Just an off topic question. What are you going to do with the PS2 you took out>?
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CentralFan1976 ·
Awesome!
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Norm Charbonneau ·
Thx guys. Mike, right now the PS2 parts are all tied up neatly and stored in an anti-static bag. I figure this engine could be restored to PS2 if I wanted to run DCS someday. I got to run the engine briefly in conventional mode and it worked fine.
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mike g. ·
Thanks, if you decide to part with it, Please let me know!
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CentralFan1976 ·
Norm, I swapped out the inboard axles on my MTH PA, and I can get some pictures for you. I actually used a faucet puller from ACE hardware to pull the old plastic wheels off and install a spare wheel set from a old Lionel GP. I remember the only issue was that this axle floats, allowed to move up and down freely. So I had drilled a hole in the block and inserted a spring to hold the axle down so it wouldn't ride up and over the rails in curves. It works awesome! Thanks, Mario
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Norm Charbonneau ·
Oh yeah, there's that too. They are not riding in a bearing but a vertical slot. Hmm. I think the newer issues have all the wheels flanged but I'm not sure.
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CentralFan1976 ·
I'll get you some pictures when I get home... Thanks, Mario
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Norm ·
Norm, Very nice. I am envious of your work and patience. The Pennsy transfer diesel is really neat. I converted mine to TMCC and EOB years ago. Norm Rish
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Rob Shaubach ·
Hey Norm, Nice job bashing that PRR transfer diesel. It looks familiar!! Glad to see you are having some fun with it!
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