Tagged With "Kadees"

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Lionel SD70M

Will Ebbert ·
I'm planning on fixing the pilot of my Lionel SD70M (not sure if I want lobster claw or Kadee) and I was wondering if anyone on here has done one of these before and has any tips. Also need a good fuel tank for it.
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Kadees on Atlas O California Zephyr

Will Ebbert ·
Last night I went to put 746's on my Atlas CZ cars and was surprised to see that the holes on the underside of the cars didn't line up with the draft gear box. Are the holes on the cars designed for Atlas scale couplers? I thought the holes would be the same for each since putting Kadees on Atlas freight cars is super easy.
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Kadee body mount couplers & #4 turnout question

MI-Marc ·
Does anyone using Kadee body mount couplers on rolling stock have problems using #4 turnouts as crossovers or in yards? I am working on my 3-rail layout plans with RR-Track to use only Ross turnouts. I am planning to use Ross #4 crossovers (RCS model #175) on the mainline and Ross #4 turnouts (RCS model #200 & #201) in the yards, which will create my only "S" curves. I will use some Ross O72 turnouts, but not as "S" curves. My minimum radius is 36" (O72). Ultimately, I would like to...
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

rtr12 ·
Nice job, looks good!
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
Looks much better. Go a step further by cutting the trip pin off and add a nice air hose with glad hand to the pilot.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
That's the plan! Where is the best place could I order one? I was just going to look at the exploded parts diagram of my new ES44s and order one from Lionel, but I am sure there are better ones out there.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
I usually grab one from my parts bin. When I convert cars to Kadees I save all those air hoses. I like the MTH air hoses because they are much thinner and have a nicer glad hand than the Atlas part. I also use PSC air hoses and glad hands with real rubber hose... but usually its the MTH air hose.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
Thanks for the information. You have a part number for the MTH ones?
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

CentralFan1976 ·
Awesome! Since my Erie-built was a cob job, I had to fab the Kadee shim for the rear of my unit, but luckily the donor had sent me the 2-rail pilot with the coupler cover door.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Former Member ·
No I dont have an MTH part #. Whatever air hose they put on all the trucks for their 3 rail cars. It just pops off the truck, and then I cut the mount off.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Norm Charbonneau ·
Good job! I like those engines. I had them in NYC but sold them off a few years ago. Wouldn't mind finding the PRR ones someday.
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
Uh oh, looks like they did use the covers in freight service! Oh well, I still like the look of the knuckle better. I'll think about it...
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Norm Charbonneau ·
I think the exposed coupler looks way better! That cover is too bulky looking, real or model..
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

CentralFan1976 ·
I'm looking for a coupler cover, if you'd like to shed yours! ��
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Steven Michael ·
I agree, the thing would've stuck out two feet if it were real...
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Re: Fixed Pilot and Scale Coupler installed on FM Erie Built

Keystoned Ed ·
Most of the first generation PRR road diesels were initially fitted with coupler covers to minimize issues when colliding with vehicles. Around the 1954/5 time frame they began to be removed as the units were shopped. I agree that the coupler covers on the FM diesels are particularly clunky looking. That's a good looking railroad Steven Michael, you are very fortunate to have a true SPF for a Dad and mentor. Ed Rappe
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Jan ·
You don't "cut-off" electrocouplers. They are disconnected and removed from the trucks. Kadees are normally mounted to the engine bodies which may have been modified. Most manufacturers have parts available that would allow you to return the engines to their original condition. What engine are you wanting to unconvert? Jan
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Lionel UP Dash 8-40c.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

bigdodgetrain ·
6 dash number!! please
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
I don't know what it is? I will have to look when I get back from Chemo treatment.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Hot Water ·
Why bother to change it? The Kadee metal couplers will couple to most large claw couplers.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Hi Jan, the number is 6-18205. Sorry about being so late, It's been a rough day!
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Bob Delbridge ·
While the electro-coupler can be removed, the coupler box, if there is one, usually gets in the way of the Kadee coupler box and has to be cut off, usually with a Dremel. Once cut off I suppose if you still had the box it could be glued back on with JB Weld, but all that I have cut off get tossed in the trash.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Hi Bob thanks, I did the same thing. I talked to Doug (Laidoffsick) before I did it. It turned out great, but now Im trading it and the guy who wants it was wondering if they could be put back on. I didn't think so but told him I would ask around on the forum.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

father.dragon ·
This locomotive didn't have electro-couplers. By the way do you criticize lionel couplers? There's more people who like them then kadees piece of ****
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Father.Dragon, I never said they had electro-couplers, I am not criticizing lionel couplers. IMO I think that Kadee Couplers look more realistic then do the claw couplers. I do not judge others on there thoughts. Here is the deal, I am trading this engine cause I want to keep my collection to MTH engines. I don't mind Lionel rolling stock cause everything I get or have get's Kadee couplers. If you wish to jump my A** over this then maybe I should delete my post. But thank you for your thoughts.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Pine Creek Railroad ·
Mike G, Easy buddy, I know you had a bad day and this guy is a little out of line, I hope you are OK. PCRR/Dave
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Thanks Dave!
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

Bob Delbridge ·
Mike, ignore him, your post/topic is fine like it is. About the only thing you can do if you ever have a truck mounted electrocoupler pocket that needs to be replaced is to buy a new truck, I don't know if the piece that has the pocket on it can be bought separately though.
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Re: Kadee couplers to Claw couplers

mike g. ·
Thanks, I think I am just going to leave it as it is and if someone whats to trade me for it with Kadee's then that would be great.
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Re: MTH & Kadee Coupler & Draft Gear Box

suzukovich ·
Re: MTH & Kadee Coupler & Draft Gear Box
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Re: MTH & Kadee Coupler & Draft Gear Box

mike g. ·
To be clear, you only need 2Rail trucks if your 2railing.
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Re: MTH & Kadee Coupler & Draft Gear Box

suzukovich ·
Mike Yes, Lionel and MTH for 2R you need 2R trucks or wheel sets. Atlas, Intermountain, Weaver, and Pecos River are sold with 2R trucks. Atlas, Intermountian kits and some Weavers come with Kadees. I would still use the Kadee couplar height gauge for confirmation.
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Re: MTH & Kadee Coupler & Draft Gear Box

PSU1980 ·
Thanks all. Looking at the 3RL side.
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Re: MTH & Kadee Coupler & Draft Gear Box

suzukovich ·
What's 3RL ?
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Re: Kadees on Atlas O California Zephyr

AGHRMatt ·
The mounting holes are set up for the Atlas couplers and boxes. The holes are threaded for 2mm screws. You can "force" a kadee plastic box onto an Atlas car by carefully threading in a 2mmx8 screw about 1/3 of the way on the rear hole of the box, then pushing the box inward as you thread in the second screw. The box has enough play to squeeze in. You should also use a shim from MicroMark to get the coupler height right.
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Re: Kadees on Atlas O California Zephyr

Ron H ·
I used a simple but very effective way to mount Kadee 805s to the car. I bolt the coupler shank direct to the truck arm as pictured here. The 805s have a long and meaty shank. Use a dab of locktite or a caged nut. If you do not have wide radius curves I'de leave it alone. Good luck, Ron H
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Re: Kadees on Atlas O California Zephyr

Ron H ·
Here is what I do. Bolt the kadee directly to the truck arm. Use a caged nut or a dab of lock tight. I use 805s. works well and perfect height.
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Re: Kadees on Atlas O California Zephyr

Will Ebbert ·
The holes weren't even close enough to see both at once with the KD boxes. Is there a source to just buy long shank Atlas couplers (or at least the boxes) so I can just use the existing holes?
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Re: Kadees on Atlas O California Zephyr

clem k ·
Will I just use one hole, and one screw, and quality double sided tape. Been doing this for years on Atlas rolling stock. Yes I do run long heavy trains. However that still doesn't put the coupler box in the correct location. Therefor I don't buy much Atlas.
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Re: Kadees on Atlas O California Zephyr

Will Ebbert ·
Thanks! I think I'll go with that for now.
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Re: Kadees on Atlas O California Zephyr

AGHRMatt ·
Interesting solution. I have a couple of particularly stubborn cars I'm going to try that on.
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Re: Kadee Conversion - 3d printed pilots for MTH SD90MAC

AGHRMatt ·
Forgot about the updates in the Premier line. Good advice on using plastic coupler boxes with the 3/2 engines. My SD24's are the original Premier and used the same truck blocks as the SD9's.
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Re: Kadee Conversion - 3d printed pilots for MTH SD90MAC

CentralFan1976 ·
Awesome. What I really need are the Lionel ALCo RS-11 and FM H16-44 pilots, with steps... The Lionel ones just aren't up to task. I can add my own cut levers.
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Re: Kadee Conversion - 3d printed pilots for MTH SD90MAC

jonnyspeed ·
Nice job. This needs to be done for every MTH, Lionel, and Atlas diesel IMHO since they won't offer the parts.
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Re: Kadee Conversion - 3d printed pilots for MTH SD90MAC

Rich Montague ·
Wow! Very nice. I also like your concept for mounting everything. Kudos especially for modeling the actual prototype pilot (unique to the SD 80s and 90s) and not simply fabricating a "full" version of the pilot supplied with the model (a re-used SD 60 pilot). Consider making the holes for the handrails smaller, maybe 0.20. Some of use finer wire for full handrails, and newer MTH models are closer to that. The modeler can enlarge them if heavier wire is used. I dabble in UP and broke down and...
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Re: Kadee Conversion - 3d printed pilots for MTH SD90MAC

suzukovich ·
Just updated my thread for older Premier SD24. I also covered the SD9/45 which share the same pilots. To be honest. If he can do MTH SD9s/24/45, Alco C628/630, and GP30/9 that would make life easier. I defintly like the idea of body mounted Kadees. https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...73#61965511445937073
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Re: Kadee Conversion - 3d printed pilots for MTH SD90MAC

suzukovich ·
Funny with that I took a look at my Weaver RS11. The pilot turns out although less detailed, did have a correct pilot as in the above pics.
 
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