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Re: Best Glues

Robert Macfie ·
What about glue needed to apply photo paper to plastic or metal , I have tried Elmer's white glue, Elmer's rubber cement, Glue sticks of three or 4 brand names and weldbond .... have to have something that will not come through and change the color of the photo paper .... but as you can see the result in that the paper comes away from both the plastic and the metal .. If I was real artistic i could simply paint the vans , but I am NOT so the simple solution was to use photo shop and get what...
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wild mary ·
Robert I like to use Scotch #77 spray adhesive when applying paper/card stock to plastic or any surface and it doesn't bleed through. I've even used to repair curled wallpaper seams.
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MaxSouthOz ·
Hi Robert It might be the paper. I print mine with a laser printer on ordinary 80 gsm paper and glue it to the styrene with CA. Otherwise you can buy decal paper which will go through your printer. Cheers
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Trainman2001 ·
3M makes a higher strength version of the their spray glue version 90. I used Formula 77 to glue Bristol Board to green foam in making roads. The stuff let go everywhere. Since then I'm switching to Formula 90.
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Joe Hohmann ·
I have used 5-minute Epoxy for 90% of my gluing jobs. By it in medium size bottles, and mix it in 9oz plastic cups cut down to within 2" of the base. Stir with lollipop sticks bought in bulk at a craft store.
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Replacing Lionel 566-54 Plastic Coupler Knuckle

John Fuller ·
I have of 566-54 Plastic Coupler Knuckle where the plastic spring broke. These are certainly easier to install than the cast ones, but apparently don't last as long. I tried replacing the plastic coupler with a traditional one, but the spring wouldn't open the coupler. Does anyone have any tips or tricks for replacing the plastic knuckle with something more reliable or do I just live with the fact they will need to be replaced more frequently. Thanks!
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FATHERS DAY SALE 15% OFF EVERYTHING ON OUR WEB SITE!!

JR Junction Train & Hobby ·
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JR Junction Train & Hobby ·
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Spray Furniture Polish For Cleaning External Surfaces Of Vintage Rolling Stock?

Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
I'll have to do a search on the Forum for "tried and true" methods of cleaning the external surfaces of grimy, vintage rolling stock, as the Lionel set that my brother-in-law kindly gave to me from his youth needs some love. In this regard, an article in the December, 2017 issue of CTT suggests the following method: "To remove heavier grime and smudges from external surfaces, spray them lightly with furniture polish and wipe dry with a clean, soft cloth." I've not seen this method used...
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coach joe ·
I must have missed that. I've never head of using furniture polish. I'll have to see if I've still got that issue and look that up.
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
FYI the article is: "Get Your Trains Ready! Our 9 tips For Dusting Off Your Trains And Getting Them Rolling." The article begins on p. 22, and, is authored by Joseph L. Mania and the CTT Staff -- obviously all very knowledgeable on this topic.
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Carl Orton ·
At the Lionel SS I worked at in the mid-70's, after we cleaned the exterior of diecast engines with dishwash & a toothbrush (being careful of the lettering in certain cases...), we'd give 'em a mist of lemon Pledge. We'd then let them "simmer" on top of an old oil-fired furnace that was warm, not hot, for about an hour. The heat just really helped the Pledge bond a bit better to the paint. After time was up, buffing it with a soft cotton cloth would make it look brand new. When coupled...
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Re: Spray Furniture Polish For Cleaning External Surfaces Of Vintage Rolling Stock?

Dan Padova ·
I have a friend who is a professional furniture restorer. Spray furniture polishes, like Pledge, are very difficult for him to remove. I'm not sure why at the moment but I'll ask him. So using them to clean or restore our trains may not be the ideal method.
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Alfred E Neuman ·
Amusing. Some want to "weather" and others want to "polish" locomotives and rolling stock. Suppose to each his own, but I'm with you and prefer the "new" look. What, me worry?
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
That's awesome! Would you use the same method for the plastic rolling stock?
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Jim Policastro ·
Dennis, That suggestion had been made a few years ago in that magazine and was met with letter after letter criticizing the technique. I'm surprised they repeated it. Any sprayed on finish, while maybe looking nice and shiny at first, will not be true to the original appearance. Many of us prefer that original finish. But, if you like that appearance, by all means, do what you like best. But, it will definitely make a huge difference in future value for really collectible pieces if that is...
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Thanks Jim! Your first paragraph crystalizes my original thoughts when reading the CTT article and thinking about the likely consequences. I will first try the method outlined in your final paragraph which is the method I was trying to recall in detail at the outset. On a jocular note, since my brother-in-law is my Dentist, he'll be pleased to hear I used a toothbrush on his trains.
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Re: Spray Furniture Polish For Cleaning External Surfaces Of Vintage Rolling Stock?

Alan B ·
I don't remember where the idea of using Pledge furniture polish on toy trains first came to my attention back in the 1970s, but I have used it on some of my vintage Gilbert AF trains, both tinplate and plastic since then with very satisfactory results. All of my trains, whether MIB, Like New or well-loved and well-worn, new production or vintage, are available for operating and are expected to be run on a layout. I am, however, partial to the clean, shiny look of tinplate, even when the...
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Re: Spray Furniture Polish For Cleaning External Surfaces Of Vintage Rolling Stock?

gene maag ·
I use a mild solution of dish washing detergent and a soft tooth brush... Here is a tip I posted awhile ago.... after you get them clean mount a static duster in your tunnel, every time your train goes through your tunnel it gets dusted.
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das boot ·
To each his own, but I would never employ furniture polish or wax sprays on my postwar; it would be like committing a mortal sin. Warm water with a touch of mild soap, plus a toothbrush or Q-tip or soft cloth is all I need for cleaning.
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
Great advice for cleaning postwar trains! My modest number of postwar trains from my youth have generally been boxed since they were stored after other interests took over in the 60's, so, they have not required much cleaning. After I returned to the hobby when our youngest son was about 8 years old, I focused on newer items, as postwar trains were becoming more scarce and pricey. The new decoration was also much more colorful in many ways, and, therefore more appealing to my son. Also, I...
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ogaugenut ·
In the 1970s I worked part time for a hobby shop doing repairs and the shop cleaned the steamers and put a red liquid furniture polish on them. We did not use spray pledge, but applied polish with a small brush. The owner argued that it made them look new and did no harm as the polish gradually faded over time. He said that customers loved it and always remarked at how the engines looked new. Some customers would remark years later about the great job we did rehabbing the engines. Did not do...
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Jim R. ·
Furniture polish, specifically Pledge, for cleaning trains has been referenced on this forum before, including within these threads (which contains similar cleaning recommendations): https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...27#67736898050920427 https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...079#3400749715609079 I prefer the Dawn dishwashing liquid approach personally.
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LionelTin ·
Except plain painted tinplate I never use any chemicals to clean shells. Good old soap and water and an old toothbrush is always the first and last resort. On painted metal tinplate if the soap and water method does not help I remove ALL trim and lightly use paste automobile wax to get most of the dirt up and restore shine. Tin
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
This OGR video may also be helpful: http://ogaugerr.com/shop/backshop-vol-9/
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BMT-Express ·
Pledge is silicone, with a lemon scent added. Let the experts chime in on the effects of silicone and plastic/potmetal/ and decals.
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C W Burfle ·
Cleaning threads will be like oil change interval discussions -- it's like God, religion, and politics. For folks who may not know, Mania is a restorer and he does beautiful work. He restored a few of my dad's accessories so I speak from personal experience. If he says Pledge is fine, I would not hesitate to use it (and I may now try it). Don't forget too, some of the stuff for which he is recommending Pledge is far from collector grade anyways and it is a question of making older, perhaps...
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jim pastorius ·
As I posted sometime ago, on my old pre-war trains I use a piece of Bounty paper towel and polish with cold cream. Takes time, is tedious but I have cleaned up several old Standard gauge cars. They don't look new, don't expect that, but have taken a lot of black dirt accumulated by poor storage. Part of the reason I bought them cheap-they were dirty. I am afraid of aerosol sprays and modern cleaners. I have tried most everything-toothpaste, liquid soaps, furniture polish, ad nauseum. If you...
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SURFLINER ·
Here is a post from my dark/secret past that was posted on the TTML some years ago: How to Clean Your Toy Trains Helpful Hints that Will Keep your Trains Looking Good. A large part of the enjoyment that we get from our trains is fixing and repairing them. This is very relaxing. I like to listen to tapes or watch movies, my father watches sports while he works (this is not a good word- it's only work if you don't enjoy it.) on the trains. We collect trains made with a variety of materials -...
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Re: Spray Furniture Polish For Cleaning External Surfaces Of Vintage Rolling Stock?

Former Member ·
Personally,for dirty plastic locomotives and rolling stock,I use the Dawn/warm water/soft toothbrush method and after drying 24 hours gently polishing with Armor All. I've used this method for 30+ years with no adverse effects. On tinplate, I just use Armor All only - applied only with a soft flannel polishing cloth.It often takes about 2-3 light applications. Armor All is water based with traces of silicone and mineral oil. The results are stunning and a interesting side effect is that the...
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Re: Spray Furniture Polish For Cleaning External Surfaces Of Vintage Rolling Stock?

Ray Lombardo ·
Cleaning threads will be like oil change interval discussions -- it's like God, religion, and politics. For folks who may not know, Mania is a restorer and he does beautiful work. He restored a few of my dad's accessories so I speak from personal experience. If he says Pledge is fine, I would not hesitate to use it (and I may now try it). Don't forget too, some of the stuff for which he is recommending Pledge is far from collector grade anyways and it is a question of making older, perhaps...
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Re: Spray Furniture Polish For Cleaning External Surfaces Of Vintage Rolling Stock?

paul 2 ·
Going way back in time, the fifties, I remember my father using Jubilee wax or polish on a operating white milk car. So I searched to see what the polish could be used on and this is what I found. I don't think myself I would try anything but the tried and true methods mentioned here.............Paul Jubilee wax 15 oz Protects, shines and cleans Cuts through grease, food stains, cooking film and other tough kitchen soils Puts down a hard shine that protects surfaces without scratching makes...
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samparfitt ·
I'm also into wood working and spray polish usually has silicon added to it. If a piece of furniture is going to be restored, the silicon is difficult to remove and prevents new 'coatings' from sticking to the surface. For furniture I only use General Finish Orange Oil to clean and protect furniture, plus the furniture smells nice after it's use.
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Ray Lombardo ·
Of course -- people will do what they want with their trains. If you disagree with the advice to use Pledge, by all means do whatever you do.
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Serenska ·
Boyd Mason of the Hazlet Train Stop in Hazlet, NJ told me to use Pledge when I was a teenager in the 1970s. I'm pretty sure that Joe Mania worked at the Hazlet Train Stop so this might be where he picked it up. I will say that a light dusting of Pledge followed by polishing with a paper towel makes the item look like new. I did this with out questioning "The Master" (i.e., Boyd Mason) over 40 years ago and I have seen zero adverse long-term effects. There is no evidence of "waxy build-up".
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Rob English ·
Not a good idea. can build and hold dust. I've seen many a piece ruined by application of pledge. a soft cloth with warm water dampness and MAYBE a little ivory soap is ok, or a light application of automobile low cut polish , but that is it. Like one statement above, "test, test, test".
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Adriatic ·
I like them slighty dusty, but theres a line I use a tiny bit of soap premixed in water with paint brushes large and small a towel, hair drier, and oil on hand. Wetness on metal isn't a big deal if it is dried fast and well, and re-oiled. I've dunked whole engines and rinsed them with a laundry hose. For stubborn plastic especially, but NOT for all equipment, post war Lionel suggested Zippo lighter fluid/ Naphtha. That's what my Grandfather used most for cleaning. I think it leaves a very...
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Engineer-Joe ·
I had a trick when I toured with rock bands as a guitar tech. I would clean each guitar at the end of the show right away. Knowing that at anytime pictures could be taken or the guitars could be played again, I'd shine them with Pledge. It didn't build up ugly like some other stuff, and seem to be the best for quick shine and some level of protection. Ooops, Did I share my secret???
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Engineer-Joe ·
I think any ammonia type product would clean off any wax type product? Be careful now, I'm just guessing here. Seems like there aren't many products with ammonia in them anymore anyways.
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Smoke Stack Lightnin ·
Just a shout out to Gene for the duster in a tunnel pic. Something so basic yet I never thought of it. I remember rears ago someone manufactured a contraption that was triggered to blow dust off as the train passed through. It had to be connected to a small air compressor. The problem (and demise) of this item was that it blew detail parts off also!
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bob2 ·
Pledge may not have silicones. I have been using it for 40 years on fabric airplanes, with no problems recoating. cheaper stuff in similar bottles does have silicone - be careful. My ancient Mustang convertible dash pad is 53 years old - no cracks after 40 years of routine Pledge applications. The stuff is expensive, and only available in spray cans which run out of air before they run out of product. Still . . .
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Timothy Sprague ·
I had always heard that Pledge in non-aerosol bottles was best for tinplate. I used it for a while after I did a total cleaning of a piece (no water, just a little McGuire's liquid car polish). A little bit of the pledge and a nice careful buff with a clean rag would make them shine nice, though they would seem to dull back to their natural patina after a while, and it never seemed worthwhile to repeat the process.
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Big Jim ·
Armor All has been mentioned somewhere above. FWIW, I will never use Armor All on anything again as I believe it sucks the plastic's natural oils out over time. Why do I say that? Because every automobile dash that I tried to protect using Armor All, CRACKED! I have never had any problem using Pledge on a dash. In previous years I have mentioned my experience using Pledge on slot car motors and how the lubricating properties (silicone ?) made them the fastest cars on the track. I'm not sure...
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Dennis GS-4 N & W No. 611 ·
An old shaving brush sounds like a great idea!
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Metal vs. Plastic Gearboxes for Kadees

Will Ebbert ·
What are y'alls preferences on plastic vs metal gearboxes? Right now I only have plastic but I'm about to order more couplers and want some input. Thanks!
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Peltogle ·
Get metal they are more durable.
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Ben Snyder ·
I agree with the above reply, however I use the plastic gearboxes on locomotives/ tenders to insulate from the middle rail. I have had a few little mishaps where a low trip pin or a slightly raised middle rail contacted for a short, the plastic box has eliminated any worry.
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Re: Metal vs. Plastic Gearboxes for Kadees

Hot Water ·
By ever so slightly reaming the center hole in the metal Kadee gear box, a 2-56 machine screw will fit through that hole. Drilling the proper hole in the under frame, and then taping to 2-56, one can tighten that screw pretty darn tight, which warps the plastic cover & gear box assembly.
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Re: Metal vs. Plastic Gearboxes for Kadees

prrjim ·
I am surprised you can tighten the screws through the boxes so tight to warp them without stripping out the threads in the carbody!
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Re: Metal vs. Plastic Gearboxes for Kadees

Jeff78rr ·
My experience shows that if you over tighten the plastic gear boxes the coupler freezes inside due to pressure. Metal boxes are very nice. I use both. Plastic on my locos, both on my freight cars. However, I am pretty much sold on Kadee's new 740 series couplers. These are as good as it can get for sure.
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