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Re: Old Lionel Boxes

Popi ·
duct tape, "if it aint broke, you aint trin hard enough"
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Re: Old Lionel Boxes

Popi ·
that brings up another point, what to do with boxes, ive got boxes from pre, post MPC, Williams, MTH, Kline, Marx. Im about ready to send them to the burning barrel
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

2-2-twainguy ·
wft trains , Bill ,I just stumbled across these posts, Christmas of 46 Lionel did put out a few 403's with left over stock that had post war knuckle couplers and tenders with post war trucks , I have 1 and it is not a Madison Hardware update. There are a lot of folks say the same thing about a never was , until you see , or have one. Mike
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Re: Old Lionel Boxes

rtraincollector ·
I agree make repairs but if you can do it from the inside of the box not the outside
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

WftTrains ·
No, there was never a Lionel post-war 0-6-0 steam switcher CATALOGED nor was there ever a Lionel post-war or pre-war locomotive numbered 656. The number 656 was used on a pre-war O gauge cattle car made from 1935 though 1940 although Lionel occasionally reused a pre-war number on a completely different post-war item. There was a #403 steam switcher shown in the 1946 catalog but this engine was never made. In the image in the catalog (probably an artist's drawing and not a photograph) it is...
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
Ok that's they I figured they never made one. The only 060 Lionel ever made that I was able to find pictures of was the 300 series pre war locomotives. Thanks for the info. I'll look at the forum archives. Any idea on the exact date of that poster?
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

WftTrains ·
You're welcome and I'd say that poster came out in 1946 or 1947.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
Thank you!
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Steamer ·
I'd love to see pics of your engine. I've been thinking of doing a six drivered switcher myself.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
I'll try to send some photos when I get a chance. Basically picture a 1656 with 6 drivers and no Johnson bar.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

WftTrains ·
Update on the posters: I forgot that the posters were listed in the 1990 Greenberg Guide to Lionel Paper book by Osterhoff. Both versions are listed on page 53 if you have that book. No photos, just descriptions and both versions are listed as 1947. Also they are not identified as DEALER posters as I had said earlier. If you don’t have the book the description for the first version says “16½” wide x 10½” high, wall poster, printed on one side in yellow, black, and red ink on white paper,...
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

MNCW ·
Can you post a picture of the switcher? Maybe you have a 201 or a 203 that someone renumbered. Tom
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
It's for sure not pre war, so it's not a 200 series engine.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
I took the screw out.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Steamer ·
thanks, I like the looks of it.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
I do to. It's a really nice modification. Very well done.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

TeleDoc ·
That is where someone adapted a 6 wheel motor, and shoehorned it into a 1656 body. Definitely a nice job, and the countersink screw hole is the telltale sign of the modification. Makes for a nice 0-6-0 switcher, to say the least.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Jim Waterman ·
Looks like a 'homemader' to me. A 2035 mechanism squeezed into a 1656 shell where someone erased the 1. Substantial engine, later 2035's had magnetraction, so it could be a real hauler. Very nice. Jim
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
I have not looked to see if it has magnetraction, but it halled my Williams C&O Aluminum Passenger cars like a champ, better than other postwar engines I have ran.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Frisco Chris 1522 ·
It probably has Magnetration, as the motor plates are aluminum. I've seen this modification done before, but with a nickel-rimmed early 2026 type motor. Nice locomotive.
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Re: 0-6-0 Lionel 656

Chessie Steam Fan ·
Thanks, I really like it.
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Re: Lionel starter set from MENARDs

Jeff B. Haertlein ·
Thanks for the insights. Actually my friend that has this set, decided to open up the engine. He found out that it appeared to be opened up before (?), but regardless he found that the plunger was stuck, and took care of that sticky problem, and the engine is now smoking great! He was very happy!
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Re: Lionel starter set from MENARDs

SantaFeJim ·
Add Fluid?
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Re: Lionel starter set from MENARDs

Jeff B. Haertlein ·
Yup!
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Re: Lionel starter set from MENARDs

JohnGaltLine ·
If you have an Ohm meter, and know how to use it, you could open the engine up and place the meter across the smoke element. It should read about 18 ohms if it is good..If I recall correctly. You could also look to make sure the plug for the smoke is fully seated in the board, and that no wires are broken. On the smoke one wire, probably red, will run from the plug to the smoke unit. the other, probably blue will run from the plug to the smoke switch, then from the switch to the smoke unit.
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Re: Lionel starter set from MENARDs

TrainGuyMcGee ·
Also, once the smoke feature is activated, it may take up to 2 minutes to get the smoke running. My first engine wouldn't smoke when I turned the smoke on. After a few days, I left the smoke on by accident and went to make a sandwich. When I came back, it was smoking! I guess it takes a couple of minutes to warm up the heating element.
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Re: Lionel starter set from MENARDs

Adriatic ·
Blow on it? I thought that was for Nintendo game cartridges? Lol Backing off on fluid a bit might help too. Total saturation can cool an element quite a bit. If its a cooler element to start with, that means a longer warm up or even failure to smoke for a few days. I have three steamers that require either a fluid with a fast evaporation rate, or careful top offs to perform.
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Re: Lionel starter set from MENARDs

JohnGaltLine ·
One other thing, I'm going to assume this is a LionChief set, as that is all I've seen in Menards. If so, are you testing with the engine moving on the track? LionChief engines automatically turn off the smoke unit when the engine is not moving. JGL
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Re: This is my latest addition

Jushavnfun ·
I almost bought that today at FRED'S Trains to add to my NW space train. It's on my list.
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Re: This is my latest addition

Jushavnfun ·
I almost bought that today at FRED'S Trains to add to my NW space train. It's on my list.
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Re: This is my latest addition

S J "Marty" Martin ·
49 bucks at Mario’s.....I couldn’t leave it behind.....it will be a great addition to the space train
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Re: This is my latest addition

Adriatic ·
Bend a wire a million times and it breaks, even in space . I need a helicopter for my post war car. The problem is that folks ask near as much as the price of an intact car half the time
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Re: This is my latest addition

S J "Marty" Martin ·
Some wires never seem to break....others break all the time.....very frustrating
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Re: 2024 Parts Info

C W Burfle ·
The same issue exists on my 1055 which has dual powered axles, no magne-traction and no traction tire, grooved wheels! Honestly, what were they thinking on these two engines? Had to be cost cutting!!!!! The 1055 was sold in rock bottom priced sets that weren't even cataloged. There are several other low end ALCO's that followed, also in low end sets. I guess they were the "scouts" of the diesel line. Better quality ALCO's were generally in the catalogs.
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Re: 2024 Parts Info

GeoPeg ·
The reason I am very interested in improving my 1055 is that it has the tightest drive train I have ever seen on a Lionel diesel - Almost NO slop in the gears or the bearings. I intend to keep it that way, plus add some traction to it for a great little puller/pusher. OK, quiz time - what's the difference between these wheels? The two on the right are traction tire wheels, courtesy of two very generous lads on this forum - thank you again!! The one on the left is a plain wheel, straight out...
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Re: 2024 Parts Info

C W Burfle ·
Check the back of the plain wheel you are going to replace with the tire traction wheel. I think you will find it has the spokes too.
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Re: This is my latest addition

M. Mitchell Marmel ·
I knew Defense was cutting costs on the armed drone program, but this is just SILLY. Mitch
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Re: This is my latest addition

C W Burfle ·
I need a helicopter for my post war car. The problem is that folks ask near as much as the price of an intact car half the time Repro helicopters were never cheap. I used to get together with a bunch of friends and place large orders directly with the manufacturer to get wholesale prices on them. It seems that the prices for reproduction flatcar loads have really gone up from those days. I guess its because sales have slowed down on them, so the runs are smaller, and the time to get them...
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Re: Lionel 7200 sd 80 mac

D&H 65 ·
When this era TMCC diesel was manufactured, Lionel designed what I refer to as the "PITA" truck assembly. The motor actually screws into a mounting plate from the bottom; unfortunately, you have to remove that mount plate from above. I haven't done mine recently, but the screws that hold both pickup rollers will need to come out along with any other forgotten screws I'm over-looking from memory.... You'll see the mounting plate in question once you remove the shell and get some visual access.
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Re: Lionel 7200 sd 80 mac

Alcocraz ·
Unfortunately the pick up roller screws look like they come down from the top.Looks like the motor mounting plate will not pass through the chassis.I cannot locate any screws for the motor mt. plate.Thanks for your help so fare.
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Re: Lionel 7200 sd 80 mac

Moonman ·
If you visit the Lionel site here , you'll find all of the documents that you need. Pictorial diagram is the one. Look at the blue links at the bottom of the description. Save them to your computer and archive them. The screw locations are a bugger. Getting the shell off will be a little tricky. Be careful of the lighting connectors and such.
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Re: Lionel 7200 sd 80 mac

Alcocraz ·
Still can not get the screws out on the front truck.seem to be under a little piece of metal.Thanks for every bodies help.
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Re: Lionel 7200 sd 80 mac

Moonman ·
D&H 65 mentioned that the plate screws are on the top side. Looking at pages 7 & 8, you should be able to figure out where the little buggers are located.
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Re: Lionel 7200 sd 80 mac

trnluvr ·
You need to remove screws 30&38 and it will come apart,make sure you don't lose the thrust bearing 14,also the axle bearings have a flat on them and have to be lined up properly. I have 6 of the NYC SD-80's and every one of them had loose motor screws. Doug
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Re: Lionel 7200 sd 80 mac

Alcocraz ·
Thank you very much going to give it a try asap.
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Re: Identify?

rtraincollector ·
I'm only guessing but looks like transformer for the inexpensive sets 70's - 90's you didn't give a great pic of it. trying to determine if the black cord is a plug to plug into a outlet either way with the forward reverse switch it's for a DC train set of some type.
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Re: Identify?

Tom weaver ·
Oops the black wire looks like wire to attach to a lock on. No power in unit itself looks like a place to plug in a power source. No Lionel part # on it.
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Re: Identify?

EscapeRocks ·
Identify! Identify!
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Re: 2024 Parts Info

C W Burfle ·
Just use the generic ALCO's information. It will be close. But Lionel made a lot of modifications to those ALCO's that aren't all well documented. If you need help, just ask here. The 2024 Alco is a one year only item, from 1969. Be aware that in the early 1970's MPC must have had a large quantity of left over shells because they had a blowout sale on them, along with a few others. So it is common to find 2024 Alco bodes mounted on older chassis with different construction.
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Re: 2024 Parts Info

GeoPeg ·
What I'm specifically after is the part number for a grooved drive wheel, non-geared wheel. This engine has only one traction tire, and it can barely pull itself out of bed in the morning, let alone a consist of 5 cars. Train Tender has a geared, grooved MPC era wheel, but I would like to stick closer to an original look, and of course, I'm not at all certain it would fit. Need a part number for the grooved wheel that is on there - one more should do the trick.
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