Tagged With "Northern Pacific"

Topic

Flyer Chief Northern

Francine ·
Was able to run the Milwaukee Road Flyer Chief Northern last Saturday at the North Penn S Gaugers event. As a matter of fact, I didn't run it that much as other club members, who loved the engine and its' performance. After all the complaints I have heard about manufacturers, I thought some good words were in order. Also there were 2 Polar Express Berkshires there as well. Both performed excellently and were crowd and user pleasers. Flyer Chief is great because it runs on DCC (as well as AC,...
Reply

Re: Flyer Chief Northern

RadioRon ·
Good to hear!!
Reply

Re: Flyer Chief Northern

Oley Valley Rail ·
I have all 4 Northerns and love them all. Waiting for wifi app for android. It's hard to get them running at same speed with handheld controllers.
Reply

Re: Flyer Chief Northern

Greekchief ·
I love the Flyer Chief stuff
Topic

Pre Ordering from 2016 Flyer catalog

Roundhouse Bill ·
I just ordered the Frisco Northern.  I compared prices on it and cheapest was Nassau Hobbies at $399.00 and then Charles Ro is $419.99.   I decided on Ro because he doesn't charge a 10% deposit like Nassau.  The deposit at Nassau is 10% or $40.  I decided to pay $20 more and not let them have my $40 for "Who Knows for how long".  Could be years like the smoking caboose. 
Reply

Re: Pre Ordering from 2016 Flyer catalog

PATSTRAINS ·
Hey, Guys We have the best price in town for these beauties and we do not require a deposit, you pay when shipped. Thanks Pat PATRICK'S TRAINS WWW.PATSTRAINS.COM $398.99 Milwaukee Road FlyerChief 4-8-4 Northern http://www.patstrains.com/View...Details=View+Details Stock Number: 6-47950 Gauge: O/O-27 Gauge Manufacturer: Lionel American Flyer Product Type: Locomotives Availability: Pre-order <input name="View_Details" type="submit" value="View Details" /> $398.99 New York Central...
Topic

When to ship by rail .. (almost) Real loads for your Gondola.

Roger Peet ·
I was pretty surprised when I pulled into a Iowa rest area to find an "oversized" load by truck. Had the Nikon in my lap and I decided to snap these three. The truck driver was from Northern Canada. He was polite enough to answer my city slicker questions. ( see pics ). This truck holds 6 tires going into Ontario, CN for large mining equipment. Each tire weighs 7500# so the aluminum trailer can only carry six at a time. These are the smallest tires they carry via motor transit. It's quite a...
Topic

Williams Northern Pacific B unit

Jack118711 ·
Total shot in the dark but does anyone have one of these? I have both power and dummy A units but can’t find the B unit for the life of me. I prefer silver trucks but black (like in the photo) is fine since I can paint them.
Topic

Traction tires for Northern 6-48047

Laurin ·
Fellow Flyer Fans. I acquired a used Lionel Flyer UP Northern and when I got a chance to run it this evening it did not even make it through the first curve before wobbling wildly. On inspection I found both the traction tires 'rubber' had basically crytallized and left the remanants trackside. My first thought was disappoinment but no problem - just go online and order replacements. No Such Luck!! Lionel shows unavailable, though I didnot get a chance to call(too late this evening). So the...
Topic

Single Headlight on 8679 Northern Pacific Diesel?

Stephen K ·
Has anyone ever added a second "headlight" to this engine? I find it odd that only one end is lit especially since the other end is already Lens equipped as well. It's a dual "can motor" driven style and it just seems an odd thing to cheap-out on by Lionel. Steve
Topic

When will S Northerns appear?

Francine ·
I have been so satisfied with the Polar Berk, that I wanted a C & O Berk as well, but they sold out so quickly, I couldn't get one. I had a Northern that I was going to convert to DCC, but after running the Flyerchief Berk decided it was a waste of time, money and effort, as the Flyerchief will run on AC, DC and DCC. I love the flexibility. The word I have heard, so far, is that they are due this month, any updates?
Topic

Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Laurin ·
I have a 336 Flyer Northern with an excessive amount of wheel wobble due to excessive rear drive axel ‘bearing’ wear. My question is this, is there a way to re-drill and re-sleeve the chassis bearing holes, or some other method of repair other than total chassis replacement? I know this is an issue on some diesel chassis and it is possible to install replacement brass bearings, but, I can’t find any references to doing this on a steam engine chassis! Any help, suggestions, links or videos...
Topic

WTB Legacy MR Northern or Daylight GS-2

Paulie D ·
Looking to purchase either a Lionel 6-11229 Milwaukee Road Northern or Lionel Legacy Southern Pacific Daylight GS-2. Or both if the price is right. New to Like New condition  
Reply

Re: WTB Legacy MR Northern or Daylight GS-2

leapinlarry ·
Is the SP Daylight Engine, the last to come out, with Legacy? I think I have this engine however a Lionel stock number would help. ( Llevin64@yahoo.com ) Thank You, Leapin Larry
Reply

Re: WTB Legacy MR Northern or Daylight GS-2

Paulie D ·
Yes it is 6-11420 is the product number
Reply

Re: WTB Legacy MR Northern or Daylight GS-2

leapinlarry ·
Send me an email and I will send you pictures, ( llevin64@yahoo.com ). Thank You
Reply

Re: WTB Legacy MR Northern or Daylight GS-2

leapinlarry ·
Yes, I have the SP Daylight you are looking for. Send me an email, and I will send pictures. This is a Like New Engine, Just Tested. Leapin Larry
Reply

Re: WTB Legacy MR Northern or Daylight GS-2

leapinlarry ·
I would be glad to send you pictures of this Daylight Engine if still interested. I just need for You to email me directly. ( Llevin64@yahoo.com ). Thank You.
Reply

Re: Traction tires for Northern 6-48047

EscapeRocks ·
Look at the 6SP8075065 on this page It's the closest I can find to the specs that show on the parts list for your loco. .875 diameter is @22.2 mm The MTH DE-23 might work as well.
Reply

Re: Traction tires for Northern 6-48047

Aflyer ·
I pasted a note below from Doug Peck at Portlines newsletter, I think he has the tires available. I also found the link to the page for ordering. Aflyer April: We now have replacement Pullmor traction bands available for the Lionel-Flyer Northern 4-8-4 steam engine. Like the bands recently made available for the Mikado, these are not a Lionel (Chinese rubber) product. These are the same quality as most of our Pullmor bands for Gilbert steam and diesel engines. $5.00 per pair. ...
Reply

Re: Traction tires for Northern 6-48047

Dean Hall ·
I assume, from Doug Peck's comments, that the original Lionel Chinese-made tires do not hold up, as you apparently have found out. If it were me I would buy the replacements that Doug now carries (and in fact since I have one of these engines stored away, I will get some from him at York this fall just in case mine have not aged well either). But, if you want a cheaper alternate, Brasseur Electric Trains lists them on their website ( http://www.traindoctor.com/ser...r/americanflyers.php ).
Reply

Re: Traction tires for Northern 6-48047

Laurin ·
Hi Fellas - Thank for your attention to my questions. I believe I will order tires from Peck at Portline!! I also have found a substitute in among my own parts. I found some replacement tires I had ordered many moons ago for my Hudsons and tried them on for size. They are just a bit small in Dia. and alittle thicker but they stretched enough to provide a tight fit(no slippage) and the extra thickness was/is no problem!! To be safe will probably replace with Dougs but is as a sub in a pinch...
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Dean Hall ·
The shipping schedule on Lionel's website ( http://www.lionel.com/shipping-schedule ) still shows the estimated availability to be December 2016. One can only hope! Dean
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Francine ·
From your mouth to God's ear. I certainly hope so, as a few of us at North Penn S Gaugers have Polar Express's and only one can run at a time. That's the only drawback to Flyerchief, you can't have two of the exact (type, cab number) running at the same time. Since my little Atlantic hasn't be upgraded to DCC although, it does have the slow turn motor, it leaves me with nothing to run at shows.
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

AmFlyer ·
I have a NYC Northern on order. Hope it shows up during the Christmas holidays.
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Former Member ·
Jeez, it seem like ordering S scale equipment is like hunting Unicorns.
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Rocco ·
I heard from Charles Ro that the Northern's are expected in on 12-21-16. Cutting it very close for Christmas.
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Francine ·
I was hoping for a little earlier, and my local hobby shop gets them about 2 weeks later. Oh well, better then nothing.
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Roundhouse Bill ·
I heard from my source at Lionel that the Northerns are to be at the Lionel warehouse in two weeks. Probably means they will be shipped after Christmas.
Reply

Re: Single Headlight on 8679 Northern Pacific Diesel?

The GN Man ·
The 8679 is an NP GP-20 from 1986, near the end of Lionel's MPC era. A single headlight is typical for the Lionel-MPC Geep and U-boat engines.
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Francine ·
Roundhouse Bill, Anything further about the Northerns arriving the the Lionel warehouse? Inquiring minds want to know! Francine
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Roundhouse Bill ·
Francine: Nothing today. If I don't hear early in the week I will give my contact a call. Bill
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Bob Bubeck ·
"When will S Northerns appear?" 1946.
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

traindavid ·
Nuyck, nuyck, nuyck--OH, a WISE GUY, Eh??? Poke Poke
Reply

Re: When will S Northerns appear?

Francine ·
Mark, thank you. Are all coming in or just certain roads? guess they won't hit stores until January
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

RoyBoy ·
Are you certain that the wobble is due to axle wear? It's really easy to get a bent wheel or a loose rim on those locos. The chassis has bushing inserts, so they can be changed by a competent repair person with the proper tools.
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Sgaugian ·
Very early production steamer and diesels have bushings but not after those. Definitely not a 336. Other things can contribute to wheel wobble as mentioned. Even drivers out of quarter can give that illusion while running. To test for bushing/frame wear, turn the engine over, pinch across a pair of drivers with your thumb and index finger and try to move them diagonally front-back, up-down. Shouldn't feel a lot of travel. Try it on several engines for comparison.
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Ukaflyer ·
336’s don’t have bushings, as far as I remember it will only be the early 332’s that will have them. Have you checked to see if the rear drivers are gauged correctly? As Roy says, it could be a rim coming adrift on the insulator. Turn the engine upside down and run it to see if a rim is wobbly.
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Sgaugian ·
Check also for any loose hub(s) on axle(s), loose insulator(s) on hub(s), or loose rim(s) on insulator(s). Could be any one or a number of things. All the more why a sewing machine smooth and straight postwar steamer drivetrain is a wondrous and beautiful thing to behold.
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Sgaugian ·
Oh, bent and/or binding connecting rods or valve linkage too. Remove the armature and turn slowly by hand or gently rotate the armature by hand.
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Laurin ·
The problem is definitely too much play in the rear axle. I have pulled the whole rear axle assembly and replaced with a good axle(no wheels or gear attached) and the play is very significant(most of the play is up and down). You a can see just by looking there is too much wear in the chassis. So my quandary is how do I repair it? I know with this kind of problem on some diesel chassis you can re-drill and re-sleeve the chassis, but I can find no such references to this type remedy for...
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

albertstrains ·
I would rebush it Find a local source for small oil lite bearings and bring the axle with you to check the tolerances in person . You can also determine the exact outside diameter measurement that will be required to bore out the existing holes (drill press recommended) in the chassis You may be required to cut the bushings to match the thickness of the chassis Al
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Ukaflyer ·
When I rebuild my late diesel chassis I use oilite bushes of the following dimensions, 8mm OD, 4mm ID and 4mm wide. The Northern chassis sides for where the axle fits are 4mm each, so these will be a perfect starting point. You have probably noticed that the drive axle has two different journal sizes, so once the bushes have been fitted they will then need to be machined to suit the axle. The larger journal comes out at about 4.56mm, so this hole needs to be drilled to 4.6mm. The other...
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

phm0 ·
Goldenhands offers bushing service for AF steamers. http://www.goldinhands.com/Rebushing.htm Portlines has the bearings for early steamer chassis. They are listed under steamer general category in the AF parts list. Part number 2642 and 2643. I think these should work after drilling out the holes in later chassis. PHM
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Milan ·
You received a lot of info but. If you do not know how to install bushings into the chassis or remove and quarter the wheels and do not have the tools and parts. Send the chassis to a repair shop and have them install the bushings and quater the wheels for you. Check with portlines hobby and other shops I think one is sNs on line.
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Rayin"S" ·
I second the suggestion to contact Ed at goldinhands. A very nice man and he will take good care of you. Ray
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

tinguy ·
Great thread, Thank you
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Laurin ·
Hi Guys - Hey, I really appreciate all the input especially the post by UKAFLYER, and from everyone else too! With that said, after posting the original post and reading your replies, I checked the other 6 wheels and except for two loose flangeless rims all are in great shape. I replaced the rear wheels, drive gear and axle, the quartering is good, except for the wobble is still so significant it causes some binding. So, it will definitly need to be rebushed. So my current plan is to order...
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

Ukaflyer ·
Before you order the diesel bushes from Doug it may pay to ask the dimensions of them and if they are oilite. I personally in your position would get the bushes that are used on the earlier models. Again, ask Doug if they have been pre drilled for the two different size journals. If they are then that saves the machine shop a job. As I mentioned in my earlier post, get the machine shop to go over my measurements to make sure they are happy with them as well. Good luck. I have now started to...
Reply

Re: Wheel wobble on AF Northern

phm0 ·
Ask Doug for his recommendation on which bearings to use. I suspect the ones for older steamers would be the correct ones. Doug will not steer you wrong. PHM
 
OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Suite 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
330-757-3020

www.ogaugerr.com
×
×
×
×
×