Tagged With "tmcc"

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Cab-1L/Base-1L

ACGilbert ·
Is there definitive information regarding which Legacy features are/are not supported. The catalog states some will be supported. I'm a carpet railroader with only one Legacy diesel and three postwar Electric RR TMCC conversions using original command...
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Backshop Premier Edition 446 (6-22918) Smoke unit issues

ToledoEd ·
I have a love-hate relationship with this accessory. It is a TMCC controlled accessory. I've replaced the mother board and the sound board. I rewired it as Lionel described to allow the Cab to turn on and control the smoke unit and the doors and the motorized accessories. Since I've owned it, the smoke unit produced a wafting smoke stream, very light, but constant. A few weeks ago, I goofed and dropped fluid into the air intake hole, not the smoke hole. At the time, it didn't seem to affect...
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Any Make O Gauge Engine Upgrade to TMCC with RailSound 4

Jamestown Trains ·
All,   Lionel has made it clear that they will not be issuing licenses for companies to make an after factory Legacy Control/Sound upgrade kit.  The Electric Railroad systems have proven to be excellent over the past 4 years or so we have...
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Dunham Studios fantastic, fabulous four-level layout (she said modestly!)

Dunham Studios ·
And Hello out there in trainland (and beyond). This is me, Barbara Dunham, wife and working partner of Clarke Dunham, Dunham Studios. We've been working since fall on a (I add modestly) fantastic four layer Subway-themed layout for a client in Port Jefferson, L.I. which video I want to share with you now. The layout, set in the 50's has three unique sections: New York City, the Sunnyside Yards and Port Jefferson. There is a subway level with stations (locations and advertising taken from...
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F/S: 2 TMCC BEEPS + Caboose BNSF

andy b ·
A Special Custom Run Limited Edition in 2005 for S&P WHISTLESTOP DISTRIBUTORS, Canandiagua, NY $199 plus actual shipping takes both Beeps and the caboose. I acquired these 2 beautiful BEEPS with ERR beep commander upgrades from the personal collection of another forum member, Jon Z, Lionel CTO. Can be operated conventionally or with TMCC/Legacy 32 speed steps or 100 speed steps. With 100 speed steps and the low gearing of Beeps, these have excellent slow speed control for lining up with...
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Help can't grasp MTH TIU logic 3 tracks running PS1, PS2, TMCC, Convetional

trainguypa ·
Help we are running 3 tracks and have 7 storage spurs. The tracks are inter-connected using switches each track (line) is isolated with an isolation track thus they are running totally independently. We run Convetional engines (old Lionel, Marx, etc.) TMCC/Command engines, and Proto1 and Proto2 engines. (Sure why would it be easy) heck, we even have a live steam! I am attaching a picture to this, I have NO idea how to wire this up. The core thing I do not understand is the variable...
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Electric RR and postwar 646 Baby Hudson conversion

ACGilbert ·
Here's what I'm thinking of doing for a project. Let me know what you think. I have a 646 Baby Hudson without a tender. I also have a 2426W tender. I like the looks of these together as they are both NYC. To me this combination looks better than the Berkshire as I never cared for the look of that 4th set of drivers crammed into the firebox or a NYC loco pulling a Pennsy tender. On the downside it doesn't have the worm drive motor like the Berkshire. I'm pretty sure I can fit the TMCC +...
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Electric rr co. board with DCS

Winger ·
Recently outfitted my lionel milk car 3662 with the electric rr company Mini HC v2 Lionel Milk Car Kit , to make it work with Lionel TMCC and MTH DCS in lieu of the operating track method.   Programmed it per procedure with my legacy controller....
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F/S Lionel PRR 6-8953 F3 AA units w/TMCC/ Sound & 6-8164 B unit w/horn

ncdave ·
F/S Lionel PRR 6-8953 F3 AA units w/TMCC/ Sound & 6-8164 B unit w/horn All engines feature Die-Cast Couplers, Trucks, Chassis and Fuel Tank 6- 8953 PRR F3 AA Diesels feature: Powered A unit has twin Pullmor motors with eight wheel drive Operating couplers on fronts of A units Dummy couplers at rear of AA units and both ends of B unit AA units have been upgraded to LED headlights A unit upgraded to TMCC and sound by Boxcar Bill 8164 PRR F3 B unit has a transformer activated electronic...
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FS TMCC CAB-1 Remote, Command Base and 180Watt Powerhouse $200.00+Shipping CONUS only

WAPD ·
6-12868 CAB-1 Remote Controller with original box and papers 6-12911 TMCC Command Base with original box and manual 6-22983 180-WATT Powerhouse Power Supply with original box and papers $200.00 Plus Actual Shipping Weight is 11.5 LBS in Shipping box. Will ship UPS or USPS your Choice. Accept payPal Friends and Family or Money Order Email makostur@gmail.com
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Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

trumptrain ·
Can someone please give me advice on my TMCC command base unit?  Although the command base is  plugged into a wall outlet, the power light no longer comes on and by all appearances seems to be dead.  Needless to say the unit does not respond to the Cab One handheld remote. I've tried plugging the command base into another outlet to no avail.   Is there a fuse or breaker that could have tripped inside the unit?  Are command bases something that can be repaired?
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How to set the "feature code" for your Electric RR Company TMCC conversion

cnwdon ·
I've searched the Forum diligently and haven't found this answer, so I called Ken at Electric RR Co this morning and he kindly provided the details missing from the Lionel-authored installation sheet that comes with the ERR Co conversion when adding an ERR/Lionel Railsounds board to the basic conversion board (the AC Commander in my current conversion.) When you do the engine number setting in the last stage of the conversion with the sound board, you will also set the name for the...
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Adventures in TMCC & Legacy... Trying to master the 455Khz track signal. I've built the test car, and it is finally working..

Big_Boy_4005 ·
I have owned my Legacy base for nearly 4 years. I tried hooking it up when I first got it, and all my trains ran away, an indication that they were getting no command signal and waking up in conventional with 18 V on the rails. I thought I would be brave (and smart) today and give it another shot. I still want and need my TMCC base for my Cab-1's. No biggie, use the "Y" cable. Just to show everyone how I hooked it up, and that I have the correct ends in the right places, I took pictures.
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Issue with rev levels on Lionel Legacy NS SD40-2 in DCS

pittsburghrailfan ·
My local train club has a Lionel Legacy SD40-2 (6-38940) which has a minor glitch. When the engine is run with the TMCC handheld, the revs increase or decrease with the speed. When the engine is operated under DCS (via the TMCC base), the revs remain in the idle setting. When I try to go under MENU>SOUND to change this, the remote says the engine is not found when there is power on the track.    What is the issue? Is it somehow related to the drive motor board failure I...
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K-line Plymouth-Upgrade advice?

pittsburghrailfan ·
I'm considering upgrading my K-Line USS Steel Plymouth to Command Control. Has anyone ever attempted this? Is it possible to convert the engine to DCS, or is it better to just do TMCC? Is there even space in the locomotive?
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Re: PULMOR Motors

john in western pa ·
I'm not familiar with Frank Timko, but I probably should be! Can you give me contact info? I'm probably not the only one needing this information! THANKS!!!!
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Re: PULMOR Motors

Marty Fitzhenry ·
Some of the better Lionel engines are worthy of the conversion. I have a Lionel C&O Yellow belly Hudson that I had converted to a can motor and I put DCS in it. I also installed a fan driven smoke unit. Now I have a great looking locomotive with DCS. Out of the box, that engine was a real crapper as were many of the late AC motors Lionel used. Things are great today at Lionel with some very high end people running things.
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Re: PULMOR Motors

RJR ·
John, http://timkorepairdepot.com/ I recommend him very highly. I bought the two motors and "adapters from him and did the DCS installation myself. If you go this route, do be aware that the DCS system cannot directly trigger Lionel coil couplers; you MUST use a relay or change out the couplers (which isn't easy). I make one suggestion, especially if you have a steamer. Put it on a level track, and run as slow as you can at a steady throttle. See if there is any binding as the wheels rotate.
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Re: PULMOR Motors

john in western pa ·
Great video Marty, thanks. I want to do the same sort of stuff. I'm not afraid to dig into a locomotive...I've worked on conventional stuff for years... for myself and for several stores...I was their "train doctor." I've also built amateur radio equipment and done PS2/3 conversions. Hands on...no problem! I need the source for replacement can motors for Lionel's several Pullmor motors. Do you [or anyone else reading this] have contact info for Frank Timko or some other source?
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Re: PULMOR Motors

RJR ·
John, I posted the answer just before your post.
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Re: PULMOR Motors

Marty Fitzhenry ·
ERR makes the AC/DC Commander that will let you run those engines with TMCC. That is nothing new as Lionel used many AC motored TMCC locomotives. An AC motor running with DC is a very smooth motor in most applications.
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Re: PULMOR Motors

David Johnston ·
Hi I would like to hear more about your binding issue with the 736. Do you thing the problem might be in the clearance between the worm and the gear? Have you run it with the rods and valve gear removed? Maybe a bent axle or an out of round wheel? Thanks.
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Re: PULMOR Motors

RJR ·
David, this is a 1950 736, with many miles on it. Never noticed any problem back when it ran conventional, because one would always have to keep a hand on the throttle and couldn't really run slow. When I converted it to DCS, I found that below 7smph there was a noticeable bind with each revolution of the wheels. I have replaced wheel bearings, axles, spur gear and flanged wheels. Tried shimming the motor for greater worm clearance. I have run it without the rods, and it might have run...
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Re: PULMOR Motors

RJR ·
Some of the better Lionel engines are worthy of the conversion. Note the adjective Marty used. The main reason for converting these two was sentiment---my parents gave me these new---and a challenge. Dollar-wise, not justifiable with locos of that vintage. Having said that, if MTH came out with the upgrade kit they've been talking about occasionally, without a tach tape, I'd probably tackle my 1941 #224 for the same sentiment.
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Re: PULMOR Motors

john in western pa ·
Marty, excuse my stupidity... ERR? ...more information please! Thank you all of you for the graet responses to my post... John
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Re: PULMOR Motors

C W Burfle ·
When I converted it to DCS, I found that below 7smph there was a noticeable bind with each revolution of the wheels. My guess: The smoke unit lever is causing the bind. I have seem this problem on a number of locomotives. There is a cam on the front axle that raises the smoke lever.
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Re: PULMOR Motors

Marty Fitzhenry ·
John, the company is Electric Railroad Company. They make boards to convert just about anything to TMCC operation.
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RoyBoy ·
http://www.electricrr.com/products.htm
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Re: PULMOR Motors

Barry Broskowitz ·
You cannot convert the engine to DCS unless you replace the PullMor motor with a DC motor that has a flywheel.
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Re: PULMOR Motors

john in western pa ·
That's kind of what I thought, Barry. Question #2, are DC fly-wheel motors available which can be used to replace Pullmor motors, or am I ahead of the game to start over vis-a-vis PS2/3 power or TMCC/Legacy power. I have plenty of PS2/3 power; however, I also have even more Pullmor powered locomotives which are seldom run anymore. Thanks for your quick response to my question and to everyone else whom you help on this forum, John
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Re: PULMOR Motors

El Classico ·
GAH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Not the dreaded question about converting a postwar steamer into a can motor unit! Although, Radio Shack (if you have one) sells decent can motors, if you can figure out how to mount them.
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Re: PULMOR Motors

john in western pa ·
Hello "madman" I love your humor! No more Radio Shacks here in the booney-booneys of NWPA! "Mating" the worm gears is the issue at hand. It kind-of looks like old versus new, and "n'ere shall the gears of either mate!" I might have more luck retrofitting an original F3 with the horizontal motors. but that will also will be quite a job!
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RJR ·
Frank Timko furnishes, at reasonable prices, can motors with flywheels that can directly replace a Pulmor. They come complete with shaft and worm for the loco you're converting and are a simple drop-in. I've gotten two & converted them to DCS. A 624 runs perfectly (there's a 2014 thread describing the conversion) at any speed 2 smph and up. A well-worn 736 has binding issues that weren't noticeable at the higher train speeds necessitated by conventional operation. If you can figure a way...
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Re: Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

gunrunnerjohn ·
Like Rob says, it's a special 12V AC power supply with an internal connection to the barrel of the secondary to the 3rd prong of the outlet.
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Re: Need for track voltage regulation with TMCC board and prewar motors

cnwdon ·
To JGL: Thanks and answers: 1. Is the high voltage reading is simply a 'no-load' condition? Placing big resistors to draw almost 2 amps before train is started does reduce the voltage drop; not quite done testing that, but you have nailed part of the problem with stable voltage. 2. Yes I have ERR electronics inside the pre war locomotive to run it with TMCC. There are 3 of the motors involved, 2 on one TMCC board and one on a second board to run as a lashup. 3. Do you only have the single...
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Re: Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

JohnGaltLine ·
First, yes, use an AC volt meter to test the power supply. If that is faulty you'll have to find a replacement. Perhaps the other folks can confirm this, but I believe the only thing special about the TMCC power supply is that the neutral and ground prongs are connected internally. You could build a patch cord that would do the same job if you can't find an original power pack replacement. Also have to see if the pin 5 connection is the same on a TMCC base as it is on Legacy, as you could...
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Re: Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

chessie1971 ·
Here is replacement wall power to the base. Lionel price 20.00 still in stock.
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Re: Need for track voltage regulation with TMCC board and prewar motors

JohnGaltLine ·
Ok, Don. With only the one train to worry about, and only the one track, I think GGG's suggestion of modifying the engine is probably the way to go for simplicity. This would let you drive the motors at 22-24 VAC to get optimal performance out of them. I think George here may have a better understanding of which boards need what voltages, but I'll have a look if you can provide any documentation on exactly what is in these engines. For GGG, is it only the R2lc that has problems with high...
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Re: Need for track voltage regulation with TMCC board and prewar motors

gunrunnerjohn ·
I wouldn't recommend higher voltages on any of the TMCC/Legacy electronics. The only people that can really answer the absolute limits are Lionel, and they've made their statement, 19 VAC maximum.
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Re: Need for track voltage regulation with TMCC board and prewar motors

JohnGaltLine ·
I think working around the voltage limitations of the electronics is what we're trying to do at this point. I'll take GGG's word for it on the limits of each of the boards in this case, as it seems reasonable to me. The R2LC and Railsounds boards cant go over 19VAC, but the motor driver DCDR looks good up to at least 35V. I have to assume this is an on board 35VDC, so the max AC would be what... 35 / 1.4141 or 24.7 volts AC on the input. That will be fine with the 22VAC output of a Z4K. So,...
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Re: Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

chessie1971 ·
Your welcome Pat!
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Re: Need for track voltage regulation with TMCC board and prewar motors

cnwdon ·
Thanks, both of you. To confirm some facts queried above: the motor driver board is ERR Co's as I understand it. The R2LC radio board is a Lionel board, and the RailSounds board I don't know for sure; may be Lionel's. I will email Ken at ERR Co with cc to both of you, and ask if the motor driver board can handle 22v, as is true for Lionel. The general directions for the AC Commander board set is not to exceed 20v, so it's not clear whether the driver board would be an exception. If this is...
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Re: Need for track voltage regulation with TMCC board and prewar motors

GGG ·
The DCDR motor driver is a simple device with Triacs, Caps, a few resistors and MOC. No IC chips other than the MOC. The trigger circuit is driven by 5VDC, so as long as the CAP and Triac can handle the voltage all is good. They can, CAPs are 35 or 50 V and the Triacs are 200V if I remember correctly. The R2LC and the RS can't exceed the 19VAC. G
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Re: Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

trumptrain ·
Thanks so much chessie1971!!! I just ordered this off Lionel's website because my unit IS dead as it turns out. Never thought to go the Lionel site because I knew Lionel stopped making TMCC command bases and remotes. Thanks again. If this wall power to base replacement does the trick ( and I very well think it will ) You may have saved my face because I'm having an open house soon and I've told everyone they can have a turn with the Cab 1 remotes running trains. I'd hate to disappoint them...
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Re: Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

trumptrain ·
Thanks to all who have replied to my SOS ... ADCX ROB, BRWEBSTER, Gunrunnerjohn, Chessie1971, JOHNGALTINE, Nick and Tom. I was able to determine the failure as being the walwart thanks to your help. Nick and Tom - I'd upgrade to Legacy, however, the cost of the Legacy system verses $20.OO is a major consideration for a guy who's on a brakeman's budget plus I don't own any Legacy engines.
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Re: Need for track voltage regulation with TMCC board and prewar motors

GGG ·
An ERR Driver board is different than a Lionel Modular A or DCDR. I am talking about the ACDR/DCDR. G
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Re: Need for track voltage regulation with TMCC board and prewar motors

JohnGaltLine ·
So, it seems the easiest solution would be to acquire a Lionel ACDR? For the more difficult solution we could scratch build a motor driver board JGL
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Re: Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

chessie1971 ·
Your power cord to the command base maybe bad!!
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Re: Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

brwebster ·
Maybe the base power supply ( wall wort ) has died/ is dead. Test by connecting the base to another 12V one that is known to be good. Bruce
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Re: Help ... TMCC Command Base Unresponsive

Tom Blevins ·
Why lose sleep over it, upgrade to Legacy.
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